I guess the geniuses at the American's own Ministry of Truth (ahem, Fox News) don't mention the fact that the wildfires have primarily impacted the red counties of Orange and San Diego, who consistently sends Republicans to Congress as frequently as Alabama. And the fact that "Godless" San Francisco and the Bay Area have been spared disaster, and whose economy is doing nicely (isn't socialism great?)

Ever notice that Brave New Films is neither? How can plagiarizing someone else’s work be described as brave or new? Very misleading isn’t it?

The reality is that this site wouldn’t exist but for the paranoia of its creators and regressives who scream for the return of the Fairness Doctrine. They can’t imagine that tens of millions of people listen to Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage voluntarily. They think ‘fairness’ is forcing the stations that broadcast them to give equal time to their point of view. Why don’t they come up with something people want to hear and would tune in voluntarily to listen to? That’s easy, just read their flawed logic, hatred for America, anti-capitalism, unpatriotic rhetoric here. Now, do you want to hear that on the radio too? They are true regressives in wanting to turn back to the “Fairness” Doctrine of the 1930s.

Another reality is that Fox News is at the top of the televised news networks (and satellite radio as well). Try as they may, this site can do nothing to change that. Have you ever seen anything on here that would persuade you to switch to CNN or NBC? The alternative news sources are rarely flouted here because their socialist views (and downright lies) are too easily exposed for what they are: Leftist propaganda.

For those of you who doubt that human activity is
affecting climate and (also) trust Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304272,00.html
Carbon Dioxide Levels Rising Much Faster Than Expected

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304669,00.html
Report: White House 'Eviscerated' Global-Warming Health Testimony

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304747,00.html
Kenyan Monkeys Make Lewd Gestures at Women

I found this website while searching for references
to the S. Cal. wildfires and terrorism.

This possibility occurred to me for several reasons.
One of these is the appearance of the many fires
as seen from satellite. The fires occur in a band
from about 100 miles north of Los Angeles and
extend south to the Mexican border. Google Earth
shows there is no significant change in landscape
or ground cover from one side of the border to the
other. So, it seems whatever has started these
fires somehow does so with respect to national
borders.

I found several other interesting things in my
search: Many of the recent European wildfires
have been attributed to terrorism. A captured
terrorist (back in 2003) apparently admitted his
group was planning to use wildfires to attack the
U.S. and its allies.

Obviously, wildfires (intentionally set by
terrorists) can be viewed as a weapon of mass
destruction. I am sure others realize this and
make the calculation between potential damage,
cost of operations, and risk of discovery.

So far as I know, the mass media has been entirely
silent regarding this possibility. This is not
hard to understand even if officials and media
have evidence of such a connection. After all,
what could be our response to such a tactic? It
might only serve to make those tasked with
protecting our lives and property seem impotent.

I would appreciate any comments or information
from any on you interested in this.

Thanks,
Ian

Pro Wrestling, Reality TV and cars driving around an oval have great ratings as well. Stupid, mindless Americans watch lots of garbage on TV, FOX is no different; same demographic, same crowd.

rom inside cable:
The channel’s coverage (California fires) included on-the-scene reports from Malibu and San Diego thanks to the efforts of college student journalists whose pieces for thePalestra.com have appeared on Fox News Channel and FoxNews.com.

Pepperdine University student Stefan Holt — son of NBC News correspondent Lester Holt — and University of San Diego student Shelby Holliday reported about evacuations at their schools and interviewed students who were affected.

It’s the first piece in a content partnership between Fox News and thePalestra.com, a 3-year-old Web site that, among other things, features student-produced video reports aimed at the millennial generation. The reports from more than 100 schools nationwide are sent to thePalestra’s headquarters at Ohio State University and edited there by graduate-level student journalists. The ones for Fox News are reviewed by Fox News producers--they are setting the agenda

oh, by the way
Last week, FNC ranked 5th in Primetime and 10th in Total Day based on Persons 2+, while CNN ranked 27th and 26th, respectively.

Fox Noise is a joke!

I was in a nursing home today and noticed all the rooms had Fox Noise on with no sound, but nobody is watching it except for a few elderly who looked like they were in a coma. I asked one of the nursing staff why do they leave Fox Noise on when its obvious that nobody is watching it or they are not able to?

Her response....no joke...."many nursing homes around the country do this because of many colors and most people in a light coma can see the light"!!!

She also stated that at a nursing home convention the doctors stated to leave the sets on Fox Noise, with sound off because of the colors.

High ratings because of actual viewership..MY ASS!

Fox Noise is on because of the "pretty colors"

RAFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The bottom-feeder conservative comedians have hit a new low with this one! Making fun of people losing their homes.

I think most of you miss the point. Regardless of whether or not global warming has facilitated THESE fires is not the point. The fact that some nerds in the media (who are pundits for the misguided segment of the GOP) actually take delight in this natural disaster. This IS NOT a political issue and there should be NO JOY over personal devastation. I think what this web site is attempting to demonstrate is the lows to which Fox "news" and the people for whom the serve will go in order to create a climate of political intolerance.

Get with the program.

That's where you are wrong. We are a majority; in this country and in the world. The debate is over; global warming is real and climate change is caused by man. The world is moving forward to deal with it whether you like it or not. Come January 2009 you will see the difference.

"All one has to do is ask oneself "why" global warming deniers are so hysterical."

Typical regressive smokescreen. YOU dipshits are the hystericals. Take a bag of ice to your polar bear Ehrenfeld. We have nothing to get excited about. But it's fun to watch you regressives get hysterical about any little thing. You are such a tiny minority, thank God.

BURN BABY BURN!!!! How does it feel California!!!! Feels something like 9/11 huh?
May all you liberal leftwing houses burn!!!!! Now you can kiss bushs ass for $$$. On your knees bitch!!

WeatherGuy - another "non-truth"! You said it was your last post here! Oh well, never let it be said I won't accomodate someone.

So do tell what question did you ask that I didn't answer? Scroll down I have presented you a littany of facts. Sorry you don't like facts.

You also keep bragging about yourself; pretty distasteful if you ask me. Besides you are no expert in this field. Well I take that back you are an expert in presenting denier PR as well as poor and unsubstantiated information. You are hereby annointed the Josef Goebbels of climate change! Congrats!

Nice NON answer John--and my positon on GW has liitle to do with AlQueta, corperate profits or what other raving thing you put down!

Did'nt Media Matters supply you with talking points on what to do with confronted with facts from and expert in a field?

Your reply post speaks volumes

John Ehrenfeld hates the military. John Ehrenfeld hates America. John Ehrenfeld wants America to lose the war. He wants to weaken America and hope everyday for the Iraq war to get worse. He prays for military deaths to rise. He never backs up what he says and there is no truth to what he says

When presented with the facts John Ehrenfeld shuts up. He is just your average liberal democrat. Can't stand up to the pressure. He has to spew lies to make him feel like he knows what hes talking about.He has been exposed. He is a phony!!

John Ehrenfeld is a fraud and a coward!!! When confronted with the truth he folds like a cheap camera. When asked to back up what he states with facts he doesn't respond . He keeps telling lies and has nothing to back up what he says. He stands on no position and can't take the pressure when asked for an answer HE IS A FRAUD , LIAR, MILITARY HATER, LEFT-WING LIBERAL IDIOT DEMOCRAT WHO CAN'T STAND ON ONE POSITION

John Ehrenfeld is a fraud and a coward!!! When confronted with the truth he folds like a cheap camera. When asked to back up what he states with facts he doesn't respond . He keeps telling lies and has nothing to back up what he says. He stands on no position and can't take the pressure when asked for an answer HE IS A FRAUD , LIAR, MILITARY HATER, LEFT-WING LIBERAL IDIOT DEMOCRAT WHO CAN'T STAND ON ONE POSITION

All one has to do is ask oneself "why" global warming deniers are so hysterical. Doesn't it make sense to pollute less? The answer is simple and clear . . they care about corporate profits more than they do about a healthier planet.

Unfortunately, it's not a meaningless exercise in a high school civics class. A million people have been evacuated in California due to the fires; the largest movement of people since the Civil War.

This is serious and your position is as detrimental to the public health and welfare as is Al Qaida. Thankfully the world is with us.

Have no fear DJK--that was my last post.

You choose to ignore any literature that does not support the arch bishop's Orwellian view of GW--there is plenty of debate and controversy--come to the next AMS meeting and find out for yourself (American Meteorological Society)--not everyone stands up and spouts media matters talking points for God sakes! You can't tell me with a straight face, that there is controversy in my community about GW cycles and how much is 'manmade'.

And as far as ENSO cycles there are basic and complex understandings John,
My PhD was (for your simple mind) on ENSO cycles global teleconnections and relationships over the last 140 years on Global warming. Which makes me a bit MORE of an expert than you or your stooge DJK-- The insults, readings and the talking points on this posting board reminds one of Romper Room. That I'm sure Ehrenfield has a PhD in.

To be blunt, you would not know a climatology fact if it bit you in your Arsenic Sulfide or AsS

Now I'll get to read how I made the whole thing up blah,blah,blah...and not to blow my horn, but I know a lot of the presenters at the much touted IPCC and funny, how scientists like myself were not really weelcoem ,nor were there studies--hummmmm?? I call it a political cold front--and speaking of cold fronts, we seem to amassed a typical anafront--with a bunch of the precipitation on the back end!

Here, here Ian! And John! voices of clear reason blasting through the smoke and mirrors and ever more shrill small voices (we're meelting)

For those interested, the web address for the IPCC is: www.ipcc.ch

General (if controversial) information on the IPCC can be found at: en.wikipedia.org

Any number of references to scientifc papers supporting the published works of the IPCC can be found on their website.

However, those who (still) express doubt regarding the effects of human activity (particularly the release of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere) are not likely to be persuaded by any work done by or cited by the IPCC. Most of those likely consider the IPCC a liberal organ with ulterior motives.

Apparently, those GW antagonists believe we can dump any amount of green house gases into the atmosphere without effect. They are the same folks who think that any limits placed on business (e.g. fishing limits) are totally unnecessary and are the work of communists (or some other anti-capitalism group).

If you doubt this, ask those who deny GW what level of greenhouse gases represents a threat to our environment (climate). Most will ignore this question, because to even acknowledge that such a natural limit exists is kind of like the old joke: A guy asks a lady if she will sleep with him for $1,000,000. She says sure (knowing full well he doesn't have the $). He then asks if she will sleep with him for $10. She exclaims wondering what he thinks she is. He says what she is has already been established and they are now only haggling over price.

So, there's no point in trying to convince these folks they are wrong. They come in two stripes:
Those who know what they are saying is BS (sort of like the tobacco executives) and don't care because they only care about protecting industry to any extreme. Those who really believe what they are saying either because they are incapable of logical thought and/or they are still blindly following the former crowd.

Either way, they can't be persuaded. They must simply be defeated. We are well on the way to that end and they know it. That's why they are sounding so shrill.

I think it's time for global warming deniers homes to burn down. That might be the only way to make you wake up. When it impacts your little small paradigm, then suddenly your perception shifts. Why do you love freedom without responsiblity? Don't you realize that the "Freedom" you love so much comes with responsiblity. You can't rape and pillage at will. THAT is not freedom. It's called explotation and greed. All good people take responsibility for the destruction caused by their own actions and change their actions accordingly to aspire to be more beneficial. (Oh and read the definition of a virus, we really dont' want to be in that category do we??) All smart people know we are STEWARDS here on this planet, not "owners". It's that simple. It does not take Einstein to see the harm mass wanton consumption causes to our "only home" (ya know, planet earth - or maybe so you understand, ONLY host organism) at the expense of the natural resources that sustain human life. Not to mention it's plain stupid to fill our soil, water, air and bodies with chemicals and toxins and cut down every plant species that helps absorb the very crap we are dumping into our ONLY HOME. Wake up or may your flippin house burn down!! Honestly - what is wrong with you people???????

Boingo I present facts with the understanding that the right doesn't like facts.

FACT:
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change a group of the world's leading climate researchers, sees a greater than 90 percent likelihood that most warming over the last 50 years has occurred because of human-caused emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases.

FACT:
The 2006 wildfire season set new records in both the number of reported fires as well as acres burned. Close to 100,000 fires were reported and nearly 10 million acres burned, 125 percent above the 10-year average.

You are talking in generalities which mean nothing so there is nowhere to go with you.

A lie is a lie. I am sorry you extremists on the right don't care much for facts and the truth and yearn for the days of pushover liberals. Wrong time, wrong guy!

You said that "experts feel that warming is 90% cyclical". That's a lie deal with it.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change a group of the world's leading climate researchers, sees a "greater than 90 percent" likelihood that most warming over the last 50 years has occurred because of human-caused emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases.

Another 'expert' journalist?

Journalist Bill McKibben on the links between global warming and the California wildfires:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/23/1412206

Allan Colmes popped a zit on his ass and poof! There was DJK!

Just kidding. DJK wouldn't make a good zit on anyone's ass. ROLMFAO

WEATHER GUY
With the knowledge you claim to have, i'm sure you can direct us to the hundreds of peer-reviewed studies that support your claim that PhDs and experts “feel” climate change is "90% cyclical". Scientists can “feel” whatever they want, but until their studies get published and peer-reviewed, how they “feel” isn’t that important. Or do you have a study to link to that surveys how scientists “feel”? Also, I come from a family of scientists and have been around scientists my whole life. The way you screech, insult and attack doesn’t at all sound like the thoughts of a scientist. I suspect you are just a troll who learned a few acronyms. And as a “scientist” it seems strange that you would not realize the illogical nature of your claim that no one wants to post on this site — as you post on it repeatedly.

That settles it. We eliminated the release of freon so as to stop the hole in the ozone layer. That hole released heat that was alleged to be creating global cooling in the 70's and 80's. We need to open the hole again to release the heat now. Simple.

By the way, notice when someone states a fact, ehrenfeld always replies first with 'why do you lie?" What an intellectual. It's like he yells, 'Liar, liar pants on fire."

By the way, why do you lie? You said that "experts feel that warming is 90% cyclical". That's a lie.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change a group of the world's leading climate researchers, sees a "greater than 90 percent" likelihood that most warming over the last 50 years has occurred because of human-caused emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases.

Oh I get it, weather child knows all, the IPC doesn't. LOL do you have any idea how much you are embarassing yourself?

make up your minds, it was global cooling in the 70's. is that ice age over already? you regressives need to get a life.

You unfortunately have chosen the wrong person to engage on this issue. Like Hannity, Limbaugh and the rest you can try to villify, demonize and personally attack the messengers but what you don't get is that "we are wise to your Rovian bullshit."

I assure you that I am every bit as well versed on the scientific nuances of climate change than you are but I see no need to go tit-for-tat slinging scientific babble around gratuitously. You are indeed laughable; thinking that a 10th grade high school student doesn't know or understand what an ENSO cycle is. How childish and pathetic of you.

The same high-school students know quite well that a La Nina effect on coastal California is neglible to non-existent. Go ply your withcraft on someone who doesn't know the facts.

The date and facts are in; there is no more debate. The world is moving forward to do what it can to slow and reverse the effects of man-made global warming.

Like I said John, all you do is spew talking points. You would not know an event from a cycle, and PNO from an PJO or an AMO. No one is debating the warming, the debate, Mr. Brillant, is the cause, which, as a PhD as well as other experts, feel is 90% cyclical.

I can see why no one wishes to post on this site.

Keep spewing your talking points and maybe you can get a few more converts.

GW is overhyped, clearly part cyclical and if you understood anything about climatology ,you would not have posted what you posted. You are 1 giant media matters talikng point--and it shows.

I will spread the word that thousands of scientists worldwide are all wrong and that weather child on the internet is right.

In the meantime, allow me to educate you. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change a group of the world's leading climate researchers, sees a greater than 90 percent likelihood that most warming over the last 50 years has occurred because of human-caused emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases.

This rise in average temperature will have far-reaching effects. Sea levels will rise, flooding coastal areas. Heat waves will be more frequent and more intense. Warmer temperatures increase the probability of drought. Greater evaporation, particularly during summer and fall, exacerbates drought conditions and increases the risk of wildfires.

The 2006 wildland fire season set new records in both the number of reported fires as well as acres burned. Close to 100,000 fires were reported and nearly 10 million acres burned, 125 percent above the 10-year average.

I'm sorry that you are so poorly informed; it's a shame that the policies you espouse result in so much death, devasation and human suffering.

WHEN YOU GET YOUR PHD IN CLIMATOLOGY AND WEATHER, WE CAN HAVE A TALK-TILL THEN, YOUR AN INTELLECTUAL LIGHTWEIGHT IN THE FIELD THAT JUST REGURGITATES LIBERAL TALKING POINTS.

YOU DON'T KNOW A PNO FROM AN ENSO CYCLE SO JUST BE HONEST AND BE QUIET. TO JUST SPOUT TALKING POINTS SERVES NO PURPOSE.

typo - unlike any they have ever seen are all crazy?

Oh and I suppose you think the hundreds of firefighters some of whom were interviewed who said that any firefighter worth their salt knows, not thinks, knows that fires the last number of years or so have been unlike any they have ever seen.

How does it feel to have your care for corporate profits cause such death and property loss? How does it feel to be laughed at along with other global warming deniers for believing the earth is flat?

By the way, that Beck is some compassionate conservative isn't he making fun of people's misery. I guess he is too stupid to realize that millions and millions of conservatives live in SoCal as well. Do you think he and Coulter might go camping together? I think he would be a much better representitive for you if he were crispy.

Well disturbed and poorly informed weather child, I suppose you didn't see the bevy of climatologists they paraded across the screen yesterday who said without a doubt the warming earth has resulted in drought conditions, dry kindling everywhere, an early melting of the snowpack and perfect firestorm conditions.

Are these people paid because they are sociopaths or are they paid to be sociopaths? Can sociopathic behavior actually result as a consequence of watching too much of this shit? Is it possible that Fox News punditoids suffer from the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

I see the global warming idiots (John) know nothing about La Nina and the PAO patterns we currently have in the Pacific
This has nothing to do with GW

While I don't agree that the entire Republican party can be held responsible for words spoken by a couple idiots, I have no doubt that someone will rise up to defend the statements. Now THATS vile. A seriously sad world we live in.

Now ya see... Beck-sies is right. You got all them people up there not supportin' our troops... and now... and now their house is on fire. You see, that's god's hand... you see. An' all them up there... we're gonna clear 'em out of there just like we cleared 'em out of New Orleans. Your choice is: support our troops or get your home burned down. Now if the democrats in congress would give me another $100 billion to support our troops we would have the money to put out those fires that al-qaeda lit up there.

God Bless America

Your better than me??? I think not. You can't even answer the simple question of naming 1 thing Hillary has done. Your distortion of Giuliani was totally blown out of the water. I do not need to be polically correct either, nor am I.

Global warming = snow melting earlier = very dry in late summer = fires. Another example of the right-wing climate change deniers threatening our existence.

DJK you are right on the money with this. It's another example of why the extreme right-wing that Beck represents are not even worthy of being called human beings. We are better then they are, if that makes me an elitest, I am proud to be one. Time to call it like it is. I'm not running for office nor do I need to be politically correct.

Southern California Scorched by Wildfires. Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck Ecstatic

How do you come up with this vile bullshit? Why don't you do something constructive for a change?

Maybe they can ask for Harry Reid , Boxer ,Pelosi Hillary to save Sean Penn house.or Striesand. Where is Mike Moore. Let him go to Cuba for help. Or maybe they can ask Chavez for help. Let them all go to hell