Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) gave a speech and town hall session to the Netroots Nation crowd that included a surprise appearance by former Vice President Al Gore. Afterwards TPMtv caught up with Madam Speaker and asked her, among other things, what she thought of Bush's new "general time horizon" for withdrawal from Iraq. Her reply: "Same old, same old, same old, same old." Four same olds!

"What are they going to say?" Pelosi asked rhetorically. "They have not said anything as a matter of fact. Aspirational goals, which means it could be ten years." 

"This administration knows that it could have made this same statement a long time ago, and they're I think being embarrassed into saying something by al-Maliki saying, 'It's time for you to go.' So I don't place a lot of confidence in that."

And later: "I think this is just more of the same from the administration knowing that the American people have long abandoned their support of this war and now they're trying to sound, dare I say the word, reasonable. But I think it's just more of the same."