Heres a thought - change the channel. Typical liberal thought - "if i dont like it and dont argree with it, it needs to be stopped." I got sick of the liberal bias of the network news (my opinion) so I stopped watching. If you want to start a website exposing what, in your opinion, is bias and unfair - fine. You have the right to do that just like FNC has the right to do what they do.

I want to clarify that my analogy to burning books, etc. is proverbial.

Now, onto Obama.

He should not appear on FNN. Why should a man of dignity and intelligence subject himself to being treated like a dog by people whose intellectual capacity is questionable at best? It would be a complete and utter waste of his valuable time.

I am a firm believer in fair and balanced. To any person of the right persuasion who might read this, here is some food for thought.

I appreciate the right has made much fuss about Obama attending a school in the Middle East. These are the things to consider: Who cares? What about all of the people who go to private schools here with religious doctrine or theology as part of their curriculum (including colleges and universities such as John Carroll, or St. Norbert, etc.)? What about the home schoolers? Is the implication and presumption by the right the following: people who attend schools with religious affiliations are somehow unfair and unbalanced? And if that is the presumption, then wouldn't that apply to all who attend such schools?

The right has called him a Muslim based upon this. Again, Who cares? However, I direct the right to the God Channel. This is a religious channel and I have a tremendous amount of respect for it. I do enjoy some of its programming. I respect all religions and faiths.

This is no secret, it is available for open and public viewing all over the world. There is a young man who gives his testimony: he states (and I paraphrase as accurately as possible) "being in a church no more made me a Christian than being in a McDonalds made me a Big Mac." Now, in fair and balanced, shouldn't this also apply to Obama - that perhaps he could be in a school in the Middle East and not become a Muslim? Not that it really matters but in the words of a strong Christian from a religious channel, isn't it fair and balanced to allow everyone to work within the same framework without presumption? This begs the question: When someone travels around the world, do they become where they are or do they remain who they are? When Condi goes to the Middle East and spends time with leaders where I am quite certain their faith is at least if not far more pressed than in a school, is she now a Muslim? There I go again with that whole fair and balanced thing.

That is the issue with FNN. It is all about presumption and assumption. This is the core issue. They assume/presume they are right and everyone else is wrong so in their opinion, they are fair and balanced. This is the central issue with the right. It is "because I said so". It is church except they are playing with a country and its citizens. And like so many before them, they do not even understand all that they have read in the Bible. They cannot even agree on some of the most fundamental issues, thus all of the denominations. Thus, why religion and politics, e.g. church and state, should not mix.

We all know what happens when we
A-S-S-U-M-E.

FNN and its viewers fit that definition perfectly.

I agree with the 50 state strategy but what does cozying up to Fox Noise have to do with that. Democrats no business dealing with any part of Fox Noise. If all Democrats refused to deal with the media arm of the Republican Party, Fox Noise would loose what little credibility that they have. That would become a news story and show the Red Staters how unfair and unbalanced the folks are at Fox Noise. Howard Dean has become a Fox Noise enabler. Maybe it is time to clean house at the top of the party - his judgement is now questionable.

The right only sees what they want to see. No other opinions, facts, truth...nothing else matters.

They want to make our choices for us and call it defending our freedoms. If there are no choices left, then what freedom do any of us have?

They even call upon God and say He is on their side...and then call those of other religions crazy people when they say God is on their side. I would love to ask God what He really thinks and if He is on any side other than the complete and entire side of humanity. Any Bible I have ever owned always said Jesus died and came for ALL of us.

I suggest anyone supporting the right and any outlet they use examine history - don't go too far back - Stalin and Hitler will do. One of the first things you will see they did is say what everyone else believes is wrong and what they believe is the only true and correct belief. The only way. This manifested in things such as mass book burnings, destroying schools, taking away parts of culture such as music, etc. killing the teachers, controlling what they read. Sound familiar? Does anyone on the right ever do things like this?

Their common cry was join them or die. The religious right likes to say you will go to hell if you do not join them. I would certainly qualify that as death as hell is commonly understood to represent eternal death, regardless of anyone's personal faith system.

Yes, paraphrased for those simple minded on the right who care not to actually read what has happened in history via multiple sources and make intelligent decisions about their political views...but it doesn't take someone with much beyond a basic comprehension of the English language to quickly ascertain these very same types of statements and actions are coming from the right and have been for years.

My personal views about gay, abortion, women working, prayer in school, whatever are immaterial to the political process and should be.

The second anyone tells someone else what they will or will not do, or can or cannot do (other than for the purposes of law and order) and invades personal choices, has taken away their right to free will and choice. The very thing our country was founded upon.

Someone please explain to me what someone else being gay and choosing to be gay does to in any way undermine ANY of my personal life or choices or negatviely impact my life in any manner? Good luck. You cannot. Do not give me your alleged agenda. STICK WITH THE FACTS, PLEASE. Thanks. Facts only.

I stand to correct all of the right who insists our Founders believed in church and state in unity and that separation of church and state is some liberal spin.

I appreciate they read the Bible, but they also read Plato, Socrates, Hobbes, to name only 3. The idea of democracy or republic is nowhere in the Bible. The Bible clearly outlines kingdom and kingdom principles where there is one ruler: God, the God-Head, Father, Son, Holy Ghost - hoever you would like to name it.

Simply read any history book by whoever....even quote yourselves - our Founders fled from places like England, where the Kings USED religion to appoint themselves as Gods - with sole power. This is what they fled and this is what they set out to completely avoid.

For more added enjoyment, look up the origin of the f-bomb. In that you will see how much power the king believed he really had. Power to override the Big Ten...commandments that is.

Once any government body believes it has the power to dictate people's personal and moral choices, freedom is taken away. Where is the line drawn? Next are you going to tell me no birth control? What religion I will raise my children in?

So all of you who think it is your God given duty to stop abortion, your God given duty to convert the world, your God given duty to get prayer back in schools, your God given duty to tell anyone else what they should believe or they are going to hell...

Take a deep breath, and try to remember this.

If you really believe in God, you will know He is indeed sovereign over all. And in His divine authority and perfection gave us free will.

Unless you are now going to deny the very human condition you espouse to help.

So either you are working contrary to the purpose you so strongly proclaim or you are simply misled.

Rather than worrying about what everyone else should believe and saving the world from itself, which again if you are a Christian you may want to check what Jesus already did...or do you think that you must now help Him too?...I digress.

How about focus on taking what you believe and put that into practice.

When was the last time you fed a homeless person?

The political and religious systems are not supposed to be the same. If you would like a modern day example of this...you religious right, look at the Middle East - all of those laws you think are so awful and terrible come from their religion. So before you judge them, think about what you are asking this country to do.

Keep your opinion about personal choices out of politics. It has no place there. I think you will find, once you eliminate these types of comments, you will have very little to say.

Because then all you are left with are the facts, something you ignore.

I have heard some of the most ridiculous statements come out of the mouths of reporters, but none so slanted and biased as FNN. Well, if we all look at it as a comedy show...we can have a good chuckle.

Derf Kallop said:

How to destoy FOX, step one

Get that doctors who are treating the liberal on Hannity and Combs to stop giving him his HIV meds so he goes away and stops making you guys look like total idiots.

I know, very very harsh, but the guy seems like he's fighting so hard for liberal ideas, but just gets crushed almost every day.

Maybe he's just a poser like John Stewart's conservative poser clone, Colbert.

I will give you guys this: you have figured out CNN does not hold the attention of very many highschool and college kids, but Stewart and Colbert do. I'm 33 and I will admit I got 75% of my world news from the "Daily Show" in college, but that was with the dude before Stewart and in Stewart's early days before he started loving his own farts, laughing like geek at himself every 2 minutes, and making every world event about how Bush screwed up. We get it you don't like Bush, now that that's established is there anything left?

Seriously, had Colbert been a true conservative and willing to take such an over the top approach as he pretended to early on, it would have been a huge set back for liberals because our highschoolers and college kids would have had a relatively young and hip conservative champion so they could subtly raged against the machine, like we all did at one time or another, but still keep their conservation values.

Then the elections approached and Colbert's master, Stewart, said "shift gears my son because you may actually be appealing to the youth who may vote now, but will be voting in 5 years". For me that day really sucked because the Colbert Report had become my new Daily Show. Now I can't take more than 5 or 10 minutes of either.

To any of you fart smellers who take yourself WAY to seriously and say CNN is anymore a true news report than Comedy Central's I say you are not watching Stewart because as much as I have grown to hate him I wish he was on my side because I feel when he stops smiling, laughing like a dork, and puts someone in his crosshairs he's dangerous.

Dear Mr. Colbert,
Hook up with mommy, kill your daddy, and rage against the dying of your conservative light. Even if you know in your heart you're liberal, you're wrong. Darth Stewart may be your father, but you can fight the dark side within you....come back to the force.

Yes among all my other faults I'm also a semi-Star Wars-dork. Hey it was one of the first movies I remember seeing from my childhood and a "Parent trap" or " The Incredible Shrinking Woman" reference just did not work here.

Now go forth and multiply....or at least enjoy practicing,
The wise and powerful DERF

Thank you for leaving in the comments by the whackos. Shows legitimacy.

Go get 'em, people. Great job.

Best, Terry

If Mr. Obama really wanted to get his pt across & cared about swaying votes his way from cons, he'd get on the FNC and answer their questions.

"JOHN said:

look it's time we bloggers start to fight Faux back using their own tactics,because the spineless DNC will not."

You hit the nail on the head sir.

However,
FNC > Libtard internet blogs.

That's all.

About the platitude that liberals "hate america"

It's a perfect example of right wing spin ...use power words that contian a grain of truth, but misrepresent the position of your opponent.

When conservatives say that to me, I say
your're goddam right.... I hate the american government when it engages in illegal, immoral and unethical behavior.I hate the american government when it allows a president to consistantly violate the constirution without penalty. I hate the goddam government when it starts wars of choice based on a pack of lies.

And I hold a special place of hate in my heart for the 35% of the population that still approve of the moron in chief.

To mis qoute Ann Coulter ""If you don't hate "Bush" and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don't love your country

to the TheBigEasy1

Liberals don't hate free speech,we hate lying lies and the liars that tell them !

If you (and fox news) would come out as the constitution hating fascist that you really are then I would have no problem with a direct and honest debate.As it is you hide your true beliefs and intentions behind quasi populist rhetoric.

What these "NUTS" could do about it, is regain control of the government and courts and reinstate the fairness doctrine.In fact that is what we will do about it...the 06 election win was the first step.

By the way bigeasy, how's the rebuilding going down in new orlens ?

Be a sceptic.
Do not passively listen to anyone.
Seek the truth.
Do research.
Listen to people who have an opinion different than yours, and politely ask for the facts that they base their opinion on.
Do they depend on many sources?
Know what a fact is.
Be careful with what you say.
Don't be an echo.
Try very hard
not to be emotional
when evaluating what you hear or read or see.
Listen carefully.
Think, don't just react.
Ask your self, "So what? In the big picture is "it" important or is some one trying to push my hot button"
Know yourself.

To Rob the libertarian..

To quote Tom Hartman "libertarians are just republicans that want to smoke dope and get laid"

When taking into consideration the sizeable percentage of Americans who tune in every day, the degree to which FNN filters and distorts information becomes dangerous on both national and global levels.
This and other websites are making a valiant effort to expose the bias in their programs. Yet FNN will remain impervious to criticism until a large scale and vocal campaign emerges to denounce them publicly. Perhaps something on the level of student and local protests, coordinated amongst multiple universities, towns, and cities, to occurr on the same day. Whatever the strategy, something has to be done.

Rob said:

"And before anyone one decides to shoot my opinion down, please remember, I vote Libertarian."

It doesn't matter how you claim to vote.

The fact that you are defending the repug party and it's official "FOX" propaganda arm, who are responsible for the most destructive attacks against liberty in USA history marks you as an anti-USA constitution bushlover.

No other USA president besides bush has ever asked USA citizens to ignore the constitution.

Maybe you love bush just because you are a USA constitution hating moronic traitor, and not the gay bushlover that your post implies.

Either way, you are at least as confused about your politics as you are confused about your bushloving sexuality.

Moronic traitors who love bush more than liberty deserve contempt and utter hatred from USA patriots. Especially so-called libertarians who support bush's war against liberty!!!

fox news or fuck news fake news.i thing the name means fake news.I dont even listen to fuck news because it tell only lies

fox news or fuck news fake news.i thing the name means fake news.I dont even listen to fuck news because it tell only lies

It is so amusing when the brainwashed rightwing come out in such a fit of denial that they start spouting such universal-isms as all liberals hate America (I guess because we disagree with the blatant misrepresentation that Fox utilizes - is Fox the equivalent of America in their twisted logic?) or we all hate free speech (while we are using our free speech pointing out these very same misrepresentations).

The amusing platitudes like "America-hating" nutjobs are a sure sign that these people are empty except for overused rhetoric and ad hominem attack. Regardless of any facts that are presented to show them that Fox is misrepresenting reality, they inevitably say things like "you do that too"!! without offering us any evidence of how, when or where.

Go read a book people and turn off your TV...!

thanks everyone for your comments and thoughts..well, almost everyone :)
We have thought long and hard on this, and believe that the gain in labeling Fox what it is, a mouthpiece for the right wing, is worth any temporary loss in a few less people seeing the debate. And I am personally convinced we must think long term of the dangerous impact Fox has on the audience it serves and more importantly on the other media. We must make clear, it is not legitimate, it is not news, and it can hide behind a one day debate to claim it is.

To really be constructive we need a list of advertisers on all Fox affiliates, national and local, and boycott them until they join the 2nd list, those who have dropped Fox News, at which time we favor them. Anything else is a waste of time.

So why did Hillary meet privately with Murdock last fall?

If you want to read Obama's opinion in October of 2002 on the upcoming war here's the URL

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

This proves that liberals really don't like free speech. Liberals can't stand the fact that someone is reporting about liberalism instead of covering it up.

What is funny is that liberals want Fox News shut down, but not Keith Olbermann on MSNBC.

See the nutjob bias by Olbermann

http://www.mediaresearch.org/realitycheck/2006/fax20060627.asp

PS - Don't worry, Fox News isn't going anywhere. There is nothing these nuts can do about it ... better just get use to Fox.

lol....

MRCs definition of bias is "we don't like it."

Therefore, it's no good.

If you want to see real media bias, check out Media Research Center.

http://www.mediaresearch.org/

Right-left political battles are like gladiator fights for the people who are in charge of the world (the NWO cabal working in secret behind the politicians).

It's irrelevant if FOX News stays or goes. Another "news" channel will rise to take its place and carry on the fight in the televised Colloseum.

See Aaron Russo's new film, "America: Freedom to Fascism":
http://www.SpontaneousCreation.org/

Instead of dismantling FOX News, let's just call FOX News what it is: "FOX Entertainment."

Signed,

Jock Doubleday
Director
Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc.
A California 501(c)3 Nonprofit Corporation
http://www.SpontaneousCreation.org/SC/links.htm

You are right Adam J. You know how much I hate Fox News and I don't want anything to do with Newshounds.

Just read their comments, they are crazy.

The funny thing is they actually think they having an impact. They have been around for over 2 years and nobody ever references them.

You people are crazy ... you are a bunch of far-far-far-left nutjobs.

Newshounds has been around for over 2 years now, but Newhounds is never mentioned by anyone on TV or newspaper or magazine.

Even Keith Olbermann never mentions Newhounds.

Now why is that?
Why isn't Newshounds ever mentioned?

Because those like Keith Olbermann know that this site is just a bunch of nuts. Nobody wants to be associated with you.

Fox Noise is one more clear sign of the death of the America Iwas born into. I was born in 1954 at the heyday of MCCarthyism. Today McCarthey would work at Fox. They could not exist if the Fairness Doctrine was in place. Sadly we now see networks like ABC slipping into the Fox mold. They are nothing more than a pack of paid shills and demagogues. Unfortunatley there are an ample portion of authoritarian types in our society who identify with the macho bullying style utilized by FOX. The Ghost of the Nazi Goebbels lives at FOX. Without legislation that will make them liable for their lies, FOX cannot be stopped and will devide and radicalize the Right further no matter how much their lies are exposed by sites like this.
I predict we will see marshall law, and inprisonment of dissenter coming to this country soon . FOX will be cheering all the way. Lets call them what they are - FASCIST PIGS! AH that felt better for a momment.

I'm conflicted. Why not appear on Fox to actually lend "balance," something the network lacks now? If no Dem appears on Fox (debate or not), it's not going to stop their faux reporting. They're going to do it anyway.

Fox News was established to further the Conservative position in America. They did not hide this fact until recent years. As long as the viewer is aware that Fox is expressing the Conservative viewpoint, Fox is acceptable. The problem is that the viewer is no longer aware of this "Conservative viewpoint". Fox now calls themselves "fair and balanced" and tries to convince the viewer that they are mainstream and from the center of the political spectrum.

Mr. Obama is not a Black American in the true sense of the word or historical meaning. A Black American is an American who is a decendant from American slaves. A Black American that may have a european caucasian parent or grand or great grand parent or for that matter a half white or American Indian in the family tree is a Black American. Obama's father was a African Kenyan who married a American european caucasian so called white woman. This makes Obama an African American not necessary sharing the pyche of a Black American or the heritage of a Black American. Peace

Good luck.

I mean it.

After all we are entering the 'bad news for the Bush junta' phase of things again. And whenever that happens, Faux spins his oral drivel so fast it splatters, and something, somewhere goes 'boom'.

Let's look at something here first. Do you really think that by just playing excerpts or outtakes of confrontations between Left and Right are convincing enough to allow people to make intelligent decisions about a news channel or its progamming? That goes for every channel.

For example:
On the one hand you see primarily Liberal Democrats voting to keep me, you or anybody who smokes a cigarette basically confined to our homes because they want to outlaw smoking, then a legitimate talking point about Obama's cigarette smoking gets looked at as if Republicans are picking on him and that they're being rude.

We know very well that if the cigarette was in the mouth of the current President, it would be a huge story.

That's only one. There are many. And before anyone one decides to shoot my opinion down, please remember, I vote Libertarian.

Great site and thanks for informing the people!

You can tell Mike Carlton watches FNN, since they have it in for the New York Times almost as much as they do for Obama, Clintons, and Kennedys.

One of the saddest aspects of this I've noticed is that FNN tells it's viewers that they're smart and everyone else is wrong, so they feel the need to weigh in on web forums or conversations... but when they open their mouth, all they can manage is to repeat something they heard from FNN or talk radio on the topic. FNN doesn't just have viewers, it has armies of slightly brainwashed flamebots.

Is it easier for someone to stop watching Fox and to admit that they believed a completely ridiculous pack of lies? Or is it easier for them to simply continue believing in FNN? One of the earliest noted phenomena in doomsday cults: when the day the world was supposed to end comes and goes and the world is still there, the cultists don't give up, they just get MORE pushy. This is as much about the ego of FNN viewers as about anything else. FNN tells them they're smart, we tell them they're fools for believing FNN. No wonder, right?

Anyone who defends FNN is obviously the sort of cattle that would follow someone the likes of Bush over a cliff because "he is my president". PLEASE! To compare FNN to the New York Times is so ludicrous it doesn't require a response. What does need a response is the mindlessness that one must have to put any credence at all in FNN. This is another example of the "dumbassification" of America by charlatans such as Fox. It must be easier for some to simply watch farces like Fox than to do any research on their own and at least get some differing opinions. Shame on you if you take FNN as the truth/gospel. Please don't reproduce and add to the genetic pool. We are in enough trouble already. Thank you.

FOX news is no more bias than the New York Times is, so lets put them out of business too why dont we.

This looks like a good start but can't you post the national advertisers at least? I know the car companies at least advertise on this channel.
Good luck, good fight.
Scott

Like others, I know people who regurgitate FNN propoganda and they are surprised when challenged with facts. It's about time that there be a concerted effort to reveal the imposter behind the curtain. Democrat politicians and elected officials as well as progressive celebrities should boycott FNN. We consumers should boycott their advertisers.

If FNN was honest about their right wing Republican bias, they have ever right to freedom of speech and to exist. However, they are instead masquerading as "news" and "fair and balanced" and they are neither. This deception is harmful to progessives in particular and our democracy in general.

Great project. Congratulations and good luck.

I have been writing and researching Fox and the media for 2 years at NewsCorpse.com. I would be happy to contribute articles to this site. If you're interested, let me know.

We really need to get the word out that Fox is NOT a news network - and there IS something we can do about it.

FNN is so dangerous and I couldn't be happier that you are organizing to do something about them.

Yes, they have a right to exist, but the public has a right to know what they are watching too.

I work in an office where most of the people watch FNN. It's so sad to hear people repeat what's being said as if it's legitimate news and gospel.

It's to the point, where their bias is present in every segment on their network, even the Financial shows. Now, they are planning a Financial/Money show to compete with CNBC. Can you imagine what skewed information they will be throwing out on there, I can!

When people start quoting Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly as the people their source of news, it makes you want to shake them. They have an audience that is ignorant to the fact that they are nothing but a right wing propaganda operation.

The whole channel is slick to the point of being cartoonish. The anchors with the cleavage and the lip gloss are hideous. Let alone that they are not knowledgeable about current affairs subject matter.

Recently, they have become the equivalant of the National Enquirer or other Tabloid paper with their Fox News Alerts and wall to wall coverage of the Anna Nicole and Brittnay Spears issues.

I am all for the Dems giving it back to them and not extending FNN ANY curtesy whatsoever. In fact, if the Dems were smart, they'd shy away from any interviews or debates that FNN is hosting. Why should they legitimize this network.

Perhaps by doing this, the Dems think the FNN will be fair or give them a break. What a joke. They will see that no matter what curtesy they extend, Fox will only repay them with more unbalanced and vitriolic coverage.

Thank you.

Thank you for getting involved in this. It always cracks me up when they say he's an unknown and they have nothing to go on. Read his books for crying out loud! Oh wait, you have to be able to read something other than a teleprompter. Oh well. Please keep fighting the good fight.

I'm sure Fox News has Obama in its crosshairs, but it should be noted that his land deal (essentially a payoff from Chicago felon Tony Rezko) is a legitimate news story, even Obama himself has expressed regret for his involvement with Rezko.

look it's time we bloggers start to fight Faux back using their own tactics,because the spineless DNC will not.