It's a good move that President Obama admonished foxnoise as not being a legitimate news network; however I don't think the administration should actually ban them; it gives foxnoise more power and I doubt the "ben gleck teaparty-promoting" network will clean up its' act since dishing out right-wing propaganda and misinformation has been foxnoise's part and parcel for the last 13 years, and their audience drinks their koolaid like there's no tomorrow; they like what they hear and you can't argue with their ratings.

All one can really do is to call out foxnoise for what it is: propaganda and misinformation,

F Fox news. They have been proven to take their speaking points from the white house, pushing their bullshit propaganda. the neo-cons have ruined this country for the last 8 years, with Fox playing a major role in that. Shame on them and Rupert Murdoch for swaying public opinion to push their agenda. They should be tried for treason as well as Cheney/Bush/Rice/Rumsfeld/Petraues

My gut says, "No".

There's a word for people who depend on their "gut" for information: ignoramuses.

"There's a word for people who depend on their "gut" for information: ignoramuses."

Would that be like "W" who acted on his "gut"?

Really and truthfully... what is the market share for Fox News? Do they get significan audiences? My gut says, "No". The nation appears to have been shocked into action, at least for the time being, and will soon vote out large numbers of phoney right-wing nuts who have proliferated as part of the anti-Clinton propaganda that began soon after his election. We just have to believe that the next Democratic president and Democratically-controlled Congress will take effective actions and not squander the opportunity for political expediency.

I realize that many people have bought into the propaganda that the federal government should be small and that publically funded initiatives are akin to "socialism" but the role of the federal government as what seemed to be invisioned by our country's founders is to provide for the common wellfare. That includes bridges, roads, telecommunications, schools, retirement, and healthcare. What kind of stupid nation are we to neglecting these things? And in the name of "lower taxes"? Let me ask you how much your local taxes have increased to compensate for the decrease in Federal spending? Oh, you don't see it? Try looking at your local roads and bridges. Ever bitch about how crappy your public schools have become? Know anyone who has gone broke paying for a surgery?

I think most people are starting to care about this stuff and thankfully, idiots like those on Fox News clearly do not. Therefore, their wanninginfluence will lead to their removal from our airwaves.

It all boils down to what Reagan did in 1988 bowing to pressure from the right: "Abolishing the Fairness Doctrine" which allowed channels like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh to exist. 92% of radio talk show hosts are right wing persuasion. Public airwaves belong to the public and the fairness doctrine must be restored. Insist that the presidential candidates promise to restore the fairness doctrine and bust the 5 media monopolies which control our thought process.

Just change the channel? Why not turn the page when you see an ad you don't like? Christ!

Why doesn't somebody follow the money?
Fox and its owners are getting something out of the propaganda it's spewing. What ever happened to the scandal regarding the paid "news-gandists" about three years or so ago? How much money is the Bush Crime Administration giving out to Fox and other propagandists to this day? Why doesn't some Democrat investigate that?

Frankly, anyone who watches the aimless pap that Fox calls programming deserves to be ignorant. TURN IT OFF!...Noone needs the Simpsons that badly.

Contrary to what Fox News posted on the comments board, we need websites like this to inform us of the political vehicle that is Fox "News".

NO we can't just turn the channels because we've been doing that for too long! I am awake Fox, and we are coming for you!!!

BTW, we know you didn't "accidently" come accross this website. There are ridiculous websites out there, but this is not one of them.

I think the only way to get them to change is boycott the station don't give them any ratings and keep the liberals off until they will treat them fairly.

The one that got me happened just last evening at the Emmys, when Sally Field remarked, "If mothers were running this country we wouldn't have any more wars." Fox, as usual, cut it out of their news hour. Our modern rulers are extrmely leary of disent, and so was Big Brother in George Orwell's powerful novel 1984, written over sixty years ago. It's so disturbing because his novel describing a Police State parallels nearly everything happening in the world and in our country today. Either George Orwell had incredible insight, or Corporate Television has fashioned their own Ministry of Truth right out of the pages of his novel, an all pervasive News Network, whose three slogans were repeated nightly as in a ritual, so that to believe otherwise meant you were a mortal enemy of the State, someone who must be gotten rid of.

WAR IS PEACE.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

Fox "News" is nothing more than the Reichsministrei fur Propoaganda of the Bush regime, with Roger Ailes as it's Obersturmbahnfuherer. As the Bush administration declared war on the American People on January 21, 2001 (and then burned down the "Reichstag" a few months later, on 9/11), it is the duty of every American to take up the call of arms against Fox. We are at war, and they are the enemy - and thus a legitimate military target for the wrath of the The People. Lily-livered, marching in the street, NPR listening liberal wimps need to either embrace Radical Revolutionary Leftism.....or get the hell out of the way! AK-47's are plentiful, easily and legally available at gun shops across the country, and so easy to use that even a Volvo driving, latte drinking, West Coast liberal can learn how to use one - if they have the cajones to do so. 60 years ago, the Greatest Generation stopped overseas Fascism dead in it's tracks. Now, the time has come for THIS generation of Americans to pick up the cause against homegrown, corporate state Fascism and the criminal, Nazi Bush regime that supports it. If you love this country, stand up and FIGHT!! DEATH TO FOX!! DEATH TO CORPORATE AMERICA!! DEATH TO THE BUSH DICTATORSHIP!! TO ARMS, TO ARMS!!!

YES, YES, YES! Democrats should definitely shut out, ignore, and dismiss Fox as anything but a serious news organization, upholding high journalistic standards. They are beneath contempt and deserve to be openly disdained and boycotted for attempting to hijack and destroy responsible news reporting that Americans expect from the news. I am sick and tired of Fox slandering me as a Democrat and making defamatory statements about me as a liberal. Isn't there a way for private American citizens who are registered Democrats to file a class action law suit against Fox for making defamatory statements about us? --- Can't they be held accountable for creating the partisanship that now infects and divides our country? After all, their defamatory statements have caused me severe emotional pain and blackened my reputation --- that could very possibly endanger my life! I really take their insults personally and I want them to stop. So why can't we sue?

I've stopped watching Fox a long time ago,
because, THEY ARE NOT FAIR AND NEVER BALANCED1111

As a veteran against the war, I am insulted by Ann Coulter's remarks. How did she ever get on T.V. to begin with. Her views are very close to the KKK or the Nazi's. If she had her way, we would be living in Communist China. If you ask me, most media is biased to either the Center or Right,not the Left,as many would have you believe. "Stay the course" all over again and again, just using different words.

Excellent clip....only the differences should read:

Pro-American Military

and

Pro-Surrender


God Bless the USA. Good job FOX.

this is the suckiest web i have ever seen

We need to know the sponsors' names, addresses and phone numbers. The sponsors need to know that we will not patronize them if they continue to support such programming. Liberals, dems and progressives that do appear on Fox must use their precious time to relay this message. Their first sentence regardless of the question or topic needs to be "I find it hard to believe that the sponsors of this program, ______, _______, and _____ know how biased this news network is. If they knew I believe they would spend their most powerfull advertizing dollars elsewhere."

Let's remember that Roger Ailes was the media consultant for Reagan and the first Bush. He's continuing to campaign for Republicans, now with his own network at his disposal. None of us, and particularly Dem senators and congressmen, should pass up an opportunity to identify Fox News as a voice of the Republican party, not a news organization.

c-BS,

That's what the lawsuit is about. Wait and see. If Rather cannot prove it, then the case will be dismissed. (That witness was identified on NBC this morning.) I bet Rather will get a hefty settlement in the end.

And what about all that O'Reilly and his pals fabricate and twist day in and day out? Shouldn't they be ousted as well, you know, following your line of thinking to stick to the truth and nothing but the truth -- thinking for which I agree wholeheartedly?

You seem to have a double standard for news people. I demand integrity from all of them, wherever they work.

Your question and choices are a little confusing, so I hope I voted right. Fox is a poor excuse for a news channel. People I know who just watch Fox, don't know the first thing about the truth of this war. Fox does a great job of brainwashing the gullible.

Fox News will never present balanced views, so anti-war folks are as dumb to go on any of their programs as the Fox "opinionators" (note I don't call them newspeople) who merely use airing opposing views to claim Fox News is balanced. Boycotting any Murdoch media is the answer (television, radio, and newspapers). I've quit watching any Fox affiliated channels except NFL games, and I'm close to boycotting them also.

Is the lawsuit to deprive FOX of their utterly false "Fair and Balanced" slogan still going forward? I think it should be pursued with all possible vigor and might help draw general public attention to the fact that FOX is indeed a propaganda organization, not journalism at all.

Dang, I meant critic-sensitive president, not critic-sensible. There's nothing sensible about that man. He appears governed by the desire to dominate, greed and looking good in the eyes of his rich friends and his papa.

Already the lawsuit is showing that Rather had a witness to confirm his reporting, and the news station tucked that witness neatly away to appease the White House and our critic-sensible president.

Dan Rather was a scapegoat of the Bush Administration to scare all the others into submission. It worked very well for them.

Listen, c-BS, the American Nation, which was stellar among the nations, is now considered the scourge of the earth by the rest of the world. We now fill the spot left vacant by the former USSR. And why is that? Because this Administration has been acting the way the USSR used to act. It was their way or invasion. This is what the Bushies are doing, and our country is hurting enormously from it --- and we'll be hurting for a long time if this population doesn't restore integrity to its government really soon.

Boycott!

Fox is owned by a Jalf Jewish man, Rupert Murdoch, & Fox president Peter Chernin, is Jewish as well
Enough said

I stopped watching Fox "News" Network when it became obvious to me that they, (especially Bill O), wouldn't say the truth if lives depended on it!! They have been spinning the truth for a long time, just to satisfy the Republican MORONS!
I used to listen to the real news, turn to Fox, and the "News" was not there! Just Bill's lies and Ann Coulter's bitter, hateful, prejudicial commentaries!
How to make the headache go away? .....STOP WATCHING FOX!!

Ron,

Didn't you hear? Dan Rather is bringing a lawsuit against, I believe its CBS, for forcing him out because he told the truth about George Bush when the Iraq War was being *invented*. The news of the lawsuit was on NBC tonight.

It is encouraging to see that some of the journalists are starting to wake up and finally refuse to be forced into collective lying. Fox is by far not the only media with distorted and biased news; it's, by far, the worse, but definitely not the only one.

Actually the other news channels pick up FOX lies and give them legitimacy by reporting milder versions of them. The public gobbles it all, no matter where they watch -- except on PBS; it is about the only public station that reports the entire story as it is.

Along with FOX, we have the big three, CBS,NBC, & ABC and if you want to throw in Clear Channel and Cumulus for good measure as basically corporate owned mass media. Obviously these newscasters beholden to them are paid handsomely for their comments and political persuasions. They may believe in what they say, but after all 90% of what they will follow will be within the framework of what their corporate bosses will allow anyway. What ever happened to folks like Dan Rather, Peter Arnett and Phil Donohue? End of story.

Please never stop showing how biased Fox is. Eventually those people who live and die by what
O'Reilly, Hannity, Gibson, etc. say will realize that they've been spun by the best spinners in the business. Maybe they'll come to realize that they've been following the "party of death" all these years and stop watching.

What I would do in the case of Fox's "fair and balanced" program is for no Democratic candidate to agree to an interview, for no liberal, progressive, or Democrat to ever go on that program. Also, I would start a campaign to write to the advertisers that we will not purchase their products as long as Bill O'Reily continues his biased, full of lies, spin on current events. Let them talk to themselves as their advertisers pull the plug. It's not necessary to increase their viewing audience by having someone from our side agree to be made to look foolish. I've seen them do it and if we show up, we're asking for it. Common sense and lucid arguments stand for absolutely nothing. Lets boycott them!

Ok... new to this site though I've viewed some of its films... anyway, Faux News advertizers are listed off this sites home page:

http://foxattacks.com/advertisers/local_zip?zip...

Don't mean to state the obvious as though profound ... but it's right there

Great web site! People need to see what's out there in the media so they can be educated as to what is happening out there and what we can do to make this a better society.

thanks again

Who are Fox's biggest advertizers? and why? what is their target demo?

The math remains the same: FOX = RNC; &

FOX Profit (advertizing $$$$) = FOX propaganda

Didn't Orwell say, "perpetual war for perpetual peace"... seems we still can't kill an idea w/ a bullet

I think that Fox will never stop. I don't think that Democrats should stop going on there, because then we will not have a say in what they report at all. I would like us to consider if we had a national television network that was pro-democrats would we have an equal balance of both sides or would we fill the time up with our propaganda. I would hope that we are open minded enough to let the other side speak and state their point and beliefs, as much as the Democrats would be allowed. I think we can only learn more and be able to debate our side better if we know where the other side is coming from, so we can counter their points with facts. I think we need to be more focused on making sure that our points of view are being covered on other news stations and in other forms of media. The more places we can get our points aired the better. I also think that this video was edited to much.

Everyone must start doing what Keith is doing on Countdown. Stop referring to Fox as a legitimate news station. His favorite is Fox Noise.

Fox is the US equivalent of the Soviet Tass News Agency.

Like many people here I never watch FOX news so I don't know what they are saying. The people who watch it are Republicans or other right wing, racist, neo-cons and people of that ilk.

I read many good comments, including those regarding boycotting the Fox News advertizers. Good job, Brave New Films! Now, please make it easy for us. Please identify names and addresses of the businesses who advertize on Fox. Put out a request for those opposed to political bias being presented as "news" to boycott products of those who advertize on Fox "News". Encourage the enlightened to follow-through with a letter to the advertizers explaining their rational for the boycott. Thanks! Daleen

Does anybody know where I can find a list of Fox advertisers? Watching Fox News (Faux Noise) doesn't fit into my schedule, but I could certainly call some advertisers and raise cain. The Fox owners aren't likely to listen to any citizen's opposing point of view; they've greedily tapped into an immense fear-driven market, i.e., millions of unthinking Americans who want their conservative views cooked and spoon-fed to them. Fox's profit picture is far more important to the network than any political ideal. The sensationalist Ann Coulter sells mega-airspace for them. The only place that the conscience-free Fox execs are sensitive is in their wallets. Influence Fox advertisers to cut funding, and change will happen.

I don't watch anything on faux anyway so I could give a pile of Bandini what kind of fertilizer they spread. Their programing sucks anyway so I guess it's mostly Brain dead Bush/Republican zombies who keep them on the air. My suggestion for everyone with more than one functional neuron is "Stop watching faux especially during sweeps week because networks live and DIE by ratings".

The group of Americans who swallow every bit of propaganda that Faux News feeds them are true believers and are unlikely to change their minds about the "rightness" of far right politics anytime soon. This is the same group that supports the Bush Administration unwaveringly and will accept no criticism of him and his cronies whatosever. This group is pretty much lost to the rest of us, in my opinion.

What is not lost is the group of advertisers who prop Faux News up. Always follow the money trail and these folks are it. Why not start publishing the list of primary FN cashcows, along with their political ties to the Far Right, so that a direct line can be drawn bewteen the GOP, the streamlining of content on FN to support GOP positions and talking points and the people who pay to have that content on the air? Perhaps those who are only casual customers of FN can be inspired to see the light, reducing the numbers that make this cable show so attractive to advertisers. I would be happy to boycott any company that advertises on FN, as long as that company knows WHY I am boycotting them.

FOX contends(and their regular viewers believe) they are the response - the balancing position - put forth against skewed media reports by the - in FOX's opinion - overwhelmingly liberal media. They should be publicly questioned on this position - in columns, blogs, during interviews and other public appearances. Publicize the bias and lies as intentional and let FOX try to deny it. They might not bite but if thy do then you illuminate the LIE. I don't watch them but I don't watch the other major networks either; consider how all of them let down the American people during the period leading up to the invasion of IRAQ. Everyday conservatives were openly questioning the reasoning at the beginning of the info campaign - "Are we secure in Afghanistan, isn't this changinging horses in mid-stream?" - and the media went lockstep with the WAR ON TERROR. There were countless ways to question the strategy without even losing their red, white, and blue tatoos. I am troubled at the cynics who laugh at your org.'s attempt to expose FOX as biased - the "DUH" response - but I understand their hesitance to pound their head against a concrete bunker.
Thanks for your work - Peter

Why not do a blurb on media and use this 90 second bit as an example of distorting facts and get other stations to air it thus making Fox look like it is?....trash!! Electronic billboards might be another way to reach the poor, misguided public who won't read or listen to educational radio or TV programs with different points of view. You know those highways signs that are all about traffic safety, traffic jams, or road closures. I've seen some used locally that tell when a child has been abducted which tell the make of the car, license plate, date child was abducted etc. These were on I45 N of Houston. You could state an ongoing report of how many folks for escalation of the war as opposed to those opposed and update it twice per week. Expensive though! In my county in Texas, Montgomery, which is Republican, the figures would probably reflect those Fox reported, but not figures say, which came from Austin, Texas which is where Democrats abound.

Why is it that O.J. Simpson still gets all the publicity and anything educational or politically instructive is absent from the media? Personally I only listen to PBS or watch educational TV. I never watch or listen to Fox!!!! I could rant and rave on about Fox.....Imposing a DRAFT might make the public THINK. Finally this war might hit home. I've thought about asking all my Republican friends and family members who voted for Bush to think about which child or grandchild they want to donate to the funeral pyre? Harsh tactics but we might have to revert to drastic measures to awaken a pathetically apathetic country. Who else would have voted for George Bush TWICE?

I'm just throwing out ideas in hopes that a brilliant idea or two might surface.

Why not do a blurb on media and use this 90 second bit as an example of distorting facts and get other stations to air it thus making Fox look like it is?....trash!! Electronic billboards might be another way to reach the poor, misguided public who won't read or listen to educational radio or TV programs with different points of view. You know those highways signs that are all about traffic safety, traffic jams, or road closures. I've seen some used locally that tell when a child has been abducted which tell the make of the car, license plate, date child was abducted etc. These were on I45 N of Houston. You could state an ongoing report of how many folks for escalation of the war as opposed to those opposed and update it twice per week. Expensive though! In my county in Texas, Montgomery, which is Republican, the figures would probably reflect those Fox reported, but not figures say, which came from Austin, Texas which is where Democrats abound.

Why is it that O.J. Simpson still gets all the publicity and anything educational or politically instructive is absent from the media? Personally I only listen to PBS or watch educational TV. I never watch or listen to Fox!!!! I could rant and rave on about Fox.....Imposing a DRAFT might make the public THINK. Finally this war might hit home. I've thought about asking all my Republican friends and family members who voted for Bush to think about which child or grandchild they want to donate to the funeral pyre? Harsh tactics but we might have to revert to drastic measures to awaken a pathetically apathetic country. Who else would have voted for George Bush TWICE?

I'm just throwing out ideas in hopes that a brilliant idea or two might surface.

Faux News has always been an embarassment to legitimate news services.Now that Murdoch has control over it, it is that much more of an embarassment! The only thing these idiots pay attention to is their wallets. I feel that once these sponsors start to feel the pinch of a decrease in their bottom line and start pulling their sponsorships, Murdoch will dump it and hopefully someone a little more legitimate will take over.

Why are you libs so terrified of Fox? Why do you support violence and censorship of something you don't agree with? So many of you state you "Never Watch Fox News" so how do you know it's so evil? The three major networks are all liberal biased, and I watch them too so I can judge for myself. Don't be so afraid of other opinions.

I think some things we can do:
1. Strongly discourage dems and liberals from going on Fox News.
2. We need to start boycotting Fox News advertisers. In conjunction with MoveOn, PFAW, and other groups, this could have a big enough impact to worry advertisers.
3. Is there any sort of legal case to be made against the higher-ups at Fox? It would be great to see them carted off to jail. They are doing such a disservice to this country, further widening the huge divide and trying to escalate this war. And they were the first to announce George W's win so we have them to thank for the last 7 years of the worst presidency in the history of the US.

Thanks Brave New Films for all you do!

Whenever Fox attacks, we should try to support their victim by donating. Except in the rare cases where we agree with Fox that the victim is actually bad. Ultimately our leaders will lose their fear of offending Fox once they learn that we will support them against unwarranted attacks.

Faux News is a complete waste of time. Only about 25% of the populace believes anything that network has to say. They put out pure, unadulterated propaganda; Himmler & Goebbels would be proud.

So, why even bother with them? On their present course they will self-destruct.

When ann coulter says the dems want us to lose and think our troops are toothless babies, do we really need to do anyhting? The people listening to that discourse and believing and champioing it have no place in this nation. The neo cons divided the nation with hate speach and fear tactics. fox news is a mega phone for them, but it is slowly silenced by democratic nominees refusing to go on fox hosted debates.

1 major issue is the Dem National convention is being covered by FOX. why would the DNC give fox $$ to televise the event? is it a way to garner support from would be republican voters? but is it worth feeding the news spin machine when they put ann coulter on TV and make all americans look like spiteful, evil, hating people?

Have you seen the chicanery Fox News pulled on Ron Paul.

Where is the Fox Attacks Ron Paul?

A typical Fox News report. Fair and Balanced" they claim. Hog wash, for a better word. I recall the days after "Shock and Awe" when this cable news network (said with tongue in cheek) kept reporting that we were finding WMD, and when it didn't happen---nothing but silence. No retractions.

It's difficult to watch these guys from Fox News, but must to "screw up" my mind. Then I get out of their grasp, back to another couple of reliable cable networks----then my mind get clear once more with truth.

I believe it a great idea for any Democrat running for any office to tell'em to go to hell---but then it may be a cop out.

Haven't their ratings dropped? I guees they are still drawing people in, but some may be as myself---just to "screw up" their mind for a fraction of the day. "Screw them (Fox News)", I say.

Respectfully,

Divide and conquer. It's hard to accept that people are stupid enough to believe the things that Fox claims.

Fox is the biggest threat to liberty in this country bar none; not Bin Laden, not Iran, not even King George, the stupid.

All we can do to stop it is to try to teach people that Fox is not news or even opinion per se, but a propaganda tool with a political and economic agenda.

Ann Coulter is the Anti-Christ.

As long as Faux is owned by a right wing zealot, you will not get them to change their content, so forget about that approach. And there is one reason I personally watch them once in a while. Their format and so called news personalities are often better and easier on the eyes than what is on the competing stations. When we get CNN and MSNBC to liven up a little and stop being so drap (as in Blitzer) maybe we can reverse the ratings. And ma and pa six pack america is never going to shut off Faux - they have been brainwashed and they really think they are getting the "news" from that outlet. Maybe a moveon.org or media matters ad campaign exposing Faux as propoganda would help, but that would be very expensive and it's backlash would be severe.

While I agree with the 'Fox News' poster to the extent of not watching,(My stomach cannot handle it.) somebody has to see what swill they are feeding to the dittoheads. So keep up the great work.

In the meantime, I think pressure of any kind on advertisers may be the second best way to deal with this beast. I for one will not patronize a Fox News advertiser. I recently switched from buying at Home Depot for that very reason.

If you want to be ineffective you can send a letter of complaint. If you want to be effective you organize the equivlant of the Weather Underground and start blowing up FOX fascilities.

FIGHT FASCISM

Fox news is a spokesperson for the elite and as such should either a) be taken off air, b)have a sacking day and get rid of all the left brain prisoners or c) just tell the truth.
This station has told more lies in its lifetime than any other station on planet earth, its a sick joke to listen to the propaganda this channel spews out day after day.

I am just a Canadian. One of those millions upon millions of foreigners whose opinion of the US has changed drastically from friendly to loathsome in the last 5 years or so. FOX NEWS is the main reason America has not ONE friend left in the World to-day. Now,like Churchill said: "Invade Hell, and I will have a good word to say for the devil"

Pierre JC Allard

I am just a Canadian. One of those millions upon millions of foreigners whose opinion of the US has changed drastically from friendly to loathsome in the last 5 years or so. FOX NEWS is the main reason America has not ONE friend left in the World to-day. Now,like Churchill said: "Invade Hell, and I will have a good word to say for the devil"

Pierre JC Allard

Should we encourage liberals and Democrats to stop going on FOX until the rules are fair, the deck is not stacked?

And miss priceless opportunities such as Bill Clinton taking Chris Wallace to the woodshed on his own program last year?

I sympathize with the temptation to encourage libs/Dems to "just say no" to Fox on grounds that appearing on their shows helps to legitimize and mainstream them. There is some truth to that. However, if all Dems agreed to shun Fox that would only give them cover for providing only one side of the debate since nobody was made available to offer a countervailing viewpoint. Dems would be painted as cowards for refusing to appear. The status quo is more effective--Dems appearing on Fox and vigilant institutions such as BNF, Media Matters, NewsHounds, Daily Kos, et al calling out Fox for its bogus claim of "Fair and Balanced."

What does help unduly legitimize Fox is allowing them to host such forums as Democratic Presidential Debates as the event in Nevada. Kudos to the first of those candidates who pulled out of the event and the grass roots (such as this writer) who petitioned the Nevada Democrats and forced its cancellation. Otherwise Dems need to be encouraged to stand and fight. That way Fox will be exposed for the partisan outfit that it is but tries to claim otherwise.

There's no substitute for vigilance.

I encourage everyone to put a parental block on Fox News wherever you can get to the control of the tv.

Especially where you work, neighbors houses, public places, and of course your own home.

Turn it off, literally. Don't let others know, just do it. It'll just NOT BE THERE.

Living in a dictatorship as we now do makes it nearly impossible to have an effect on anything, especially the media that have contributed to making this a dictatorship. No one listens to "we the people." We have no choices. I never watch Fox & if it's on when I'm in a public place, like a motel or airport, I ask whoever has the controls to change the station. It has been insidious. People in the US actually think they saw Weapons of Mass Destruction destroyed in Iraq because of some nonsense they saw on Fox.

Fox is playing their games.

I agree with Maria, it will not serve the left to disappear from view altogether on fox. The first question I have is; why so much effort to reach those who watch fox? The majority of fox viewers watch fox because it serves them and their ideology in some way. Inviting fox viewers to join us to laugh and/or cry at the absurdity of fox reporting is futile.
Every great social movement was concieved and pursued by a just a small group of people. What was that saying? Never underestimate the power of a small group of people... Brave new films has done a fine job of compiling and illustrating the propaganda machine. But I believe it will have to be through a political movement if we are to affect change. Find an attorney that can challenge the "news" in fox news. Make them change it to fox entertainment. Fox news is a corporation and therefore has an obligation to tell the truth to the public. Correct me if I am mistaken, but corporate rights to the constitution have never been established by the surpreme court. Another thought is have the FCC define the regulations and licensing requirements for "news" broadcast. Slippery slope, but much more manageable than convincing millions that they're being lied to. Congress is in charge of overseeing the FCC, if I remember right. Finding a Senator who will sponser a bill, like Senator Byrd in W. Virginia, that calls for the tight regulations around news broadcasting only, is an option I favor.
Sara

I agree with Maria, it will not serve the left to disappear from view altogether on fox. The first question I have is; why so much effort to reach those who watch fox? The majority of fox viewers watch fox because it serves them and their ideology in some way. Inviting fox viewers to join us to laugh and/or cry at the absurdity of fox reporting is futile.
Every great social movement was concieved and pursued by a just a small group of people. What was that saying? Never underestimate the power of a small group of people... Brave new films has done a fine job of compiling and illustrating the propaganda machine. But I believe it will have to be through a political movement if we are to affect change. Find an attorney that can challenge the "news" in fox news. Make them change it to fox entertainment. Fox news is a corporation and therefore has an obligation to tell the truth to the public. Correct me if I am mistaken, but corporate rights to the constitution have never been established by the surpreme court. Another thought is have the FCC define the regulations and licensing requirements for "news" broadcast. Slippery slope, but much more manageable than convincing millions that they're being lied to. Congress is in charge of overseeing the FCC, if I remember right. Finding a Senator who will sponser a bill, like Senator Byrd in W. Virginia, that calls for the tight regulations around news broadcasting only, is an option I favor.
Sara

If liberal pundits appear on Fox they should be prepared to be talked over. I suggest they bring signs they can flash. "Let me speak!" "Shut up!" "Unfair and unbalanced!" "That's a lie!" "Support the troops by bringing them home!" etc.

A good solution to fox is to lobby a very very wealthy investor(s) to start up a channel/network to undo or counter fox's lies...By the way if you work for fox there is no need to blog...Everyone knows if they want to get a good laugh at ignorant commentary opinions fox is the channel to turn to...I actually get stress relief daily from just 10 minutes...

There is a weapon that can be used, which is being used. I am here. You are here. This is where we are now getting our news. Corporate broadcasting is based on ratings. When the citizen's media sites are getting the readership, the advertisers will come here. They may not like it. But the corporation structure can sometimes work in our favor. Corporate greed and competitiveness will tap the best source of potential revenue. Soon, that will be us. Then we will have an economic voice.

FOX is the mouthpiece of the neocons. Ignore them. Do not even let your remote stop on their channel. There will be watchdog groups to keep track on what they are saying/doing.

Those who despise them, should not even return a call for inclusion on their programs. Ignore the bastards.

In all kinds of public places such as airports and train stations and businesses such as barber shops and markets the Fox News Network is airing. Each of of needs to start asking that the channel be changed to some other source. Or change it ourselves. Or publicly refuse to frequent these establishments until the Fox Noise is changed.

Sept 11 2001 I felt alone with my views. Thank you all for being here.

Sue them.

That's my thought... wasn't there a time when the kind of slander they perpetrate against Liberals supposed to be illegal? I mean, honestly... aren't we as Americans supposed to be able to take action against somebody who smears our good name?

Every time they make an untrue statement regarding Democrats that is designed to smear them, a lawsuit should be threatened. Especially if they mention a specific Democrat by name.

Bomb Fox. It's the only way. Barring such an unfortnate impossibility as that, keep on trying, keep on showing up on Faux to fight for truth, keep on telling the truth despite those small-minded idiots who will buy whatever neocon liars will dish out. The republican party died a long time ago and has been replaced by the repugnantscums. It's funny that so many of these unAmerican haters of democracy and justice claim to hold Christian beliefs. These are the same kind of people as the Pharisees of Jesus' time whom Jesus Himself labeled as vile serpents.

If the American people want to believe everything they watch on Fox News then they get what they deserve. But seriously, Fox News is probably the most underrated reality comedy show on the air today. . . because let's face it, ya can't make this shit up. Neil Postman who wrote "Amusing Ourselevs to Death," his insightful critique on the perils of TV, is probably rolling in his grave right now. Fox News is hands down sham journalism at it's worst. But ya know what - that's why there is an off button on the TV - I'd suggest we all use it. Now that would send a signal.

I still can't understand how this stuff is allowed to pass as news.They never site their sources and they use genuinely evil flaming b@%tchs like Ann friggin Coulter to blast people for voicing any anti war opinion.Excuse me for having an opinion! Is she a Nazi or just a witch? No one in Hollywood could create a more classic arian villianette.Cruella Deville look out!

If you want to boycott fox advertisers, go to News Hounds. The regulars are happy to provide the advertisers' names and contact info. I've sent them notes of my distaste for fox crap myself, and ScottTrade was the only one who told me to get lost. Lowes and others pulled advertising.

And I agree, no Democrat, Liberal or Progressive should ever go on that fake news network.

Further, I urge everyone to contact their congressman and senators about banning fox as a default channel for US Soldiers. We don't like the kool-aid as much as some right wing leaders believe. We serve the country, not the neocon agenda.

There is a certain necessity to knowing what the enemy is doing, so I don't think ignoring FOX is an option. I do think we should try to expose them, but sending e-mails to supporters is preaching to the choir. I wish there was a way to access a mass audience.

Certainly Fox has a right to promote its agenda no matter how bias it is. Viewers don't have to like it and can protest its slanted reporting. How about protesting to the Fox advertisers?

FOX should be put off the air. Not only do their republican counterparts lie so do they!! We need to get a channel to tell the truth and expose the President's treasonous acts. Where do we vote to do that?

Democrats should continue to go on any progrms they can to represent reality, but whenever they go on programs, like Fox, that are clearly unbalanced, they should point that out by saying something like, "Okay, it's three against one here, but that's okay, I've got reality on my side." Make sure the audience is aware of the imbalance, but then make the points that need to be made.

Media providers are corporations, and have no obligation to be fair, balanced, right, wrong, or neutral. They have an obligation to thier owners and/or shareholders to cut costs, maximize profits, and pressure government at all levels to keep the political environment safe for capitalist abuse. If they claim otherwise, they're full of shit.

FOX is no different from any other big media outlet - they are just more focused on their priorities. The other outlets have no motivation to provide honest news either.

I don't pretend to have a solution, but let's keep the problem clear - ALL big media companies have the same bias toward wealth and power. So what are you going to do about it?

Let's make the FCC do what it used to do, provide and enforce a fairness doctrine for broadcasters. Without this, Fox will continue to be a shill and a sham.

Well at least we got the Republican's dander up with our right on comment on this Administration "betrayal" of all of the American people and the war in Iraq. It really has nothing to do with Petraus - It has everything to do with the betrayal from Our Betrayer in Chief, George Bush.

BOYCOTT FOX... DO IT NOW... That way we dont have to get bombarded by these lies.

No surprises here. We never watch the Republican Nat'l. Network, aka FOX. Now if every sane person did the same, we wouldn't be having this conversation. God save America, deliver us from republicans!

I congratulate BraveNewFilms for all its efforts to show how despicable the Bush administration and its stooge network, Fox News, is in all the lies that are told to the people who mistakenly believe that Fox News is "fair and balanced." I never watch Fox News and I forward all uncomplimentary films to the few misguided people I know who watch Fox News. I think we should boycott all advertisers on Fox NEws and let them know why we don't buy their products. The sad thing is we will have to watch Fox News to know who the advertisers are.

Nobody with any intelligence watches FOX anyway, that is unless the horses and fox hounds are ready
to drive you into the ground. Corporations that bought the republicans, Bush, Cheney (whatever), are the ones who own Fox, and of course the present government, intent on stealing as much of the nations wealth as possible, destroying as much
of the nations natural resources as possible, and allowing oil-gas-coal powerhouses to destroy as much of anything that is left as possible.

How dare Ann Coulter say those things about how the Dems hate the troops!!! She is a cold, heartless piece of trash. My brother is a solider in the US Army, currently on his second tour in Iraq and we couldn't be prouder of him. For her to say those awful, cruel things is absolutely beyond me. We need to find out every single one of Fixed News' advertisers and boycott. But what I find the scariest of all is how many ignorant people still buy their bogus idea of news. And I'm with Hank 100%, but instead of throwing fruit at her, how about we chuck some bricks at her instead? This world would be a much better place without the likes of her, Hannity, Bill-O, Limbaugh and all the rest. Boycott the Fixed News channel and all their advertisers.

All democrats must stay off Fox - refuse to give them interviews.
They are not a News channel and the Democrats will lose nothing of value by refusing to go on the channel.

Thank you, Mr. Greenwald and staff. You are doing important work.

Please keep sending Fox updates. I can't stand to watch such offensive Fourth Reich material to find the important sound bites and trends.

I know people who do watch it, amazing as that seems to me, because my 85 year old ex-mother-in-law literally has Fox on all day. She even takes notes! I'm not kidding. She has George and Laura's picture on the refrigerator next to the pictures of her family. She thinks Bush and Blair are very good Christian men who are/were just misunderstood. She's actually not stupid, just terribly brainwashed and still lives in the fantasy America of her youth. As a professional therapist, I also believe she has enormous unresolved anger, and Fox is an outlet for some of her hate and rage. In her world, Bill O'Reilly is a strong father-figure who protects his own. (To my husband and I, if you put a Nazi uniform and cap on Bill O'Reilly, he'd fit right in with Hitler's SS.)

I no longer have any idea who advertises on Fox, but if you will tell me, I will gladly boycott their products. If you can, list parent companies and subsidiaries. If you include emails, I will write at least some of those companies and tell them why I am boycotting.

Another suggestion: Take your cameraman and catch one of these advertising corporate CEO's getting out of their car, and ask if they agree with one or another of the outrageous hateful statements. Michael Moore did something like that while making his documentary "Corporation", and it was very revealing. I realize, however, that it is not easy to go chasing around after CEO's. But if you do, send it out!

Finally, I will commit to asking any public establishment(restaurant)to either change the channel or lose my business, if they are showing Fox.

I'm with Michelle. Fox isn't going to change. It will only get worse.
We should continue to support the liberal commentators who can stomach their time on-FOXair. But if you want to make a dent, go after their advertisers. BOYCOTT PRODUCTS. Start a boycott list and send it out to everyone you sent this list to.

In the history of television, only one thing has ever caused a network to change its practices - the threat of loosing sponsors. You want to hurt Fox News? Boycott their advertisers.

I agree iwth john - since I never watch that "news" program, could someone please post a list of its advertizers?

Hollering at Fox is like hollering at a pig. All it does is aggravate the pig and make you horse.

I just turn the PIG off.

Dems should simply say the same.

Most REASONABLE folks know just how unreasonable the Fox News group is and "balanced" isn't just a term they would ever understand. You expect them to drown dissent in the vicious and cruel crap from Coulter. She is sick and demonstrates that every chance she can get. Don't give them any hearing, any comment. They don't deserve it. Let them talk only to their anointed.

I believe Dems and libs should appear on Fox as much as possible and begin each statement with the question "Will I be allowed to finish my statement?"
If told yes the host is obligated to listen for minute. Try to cram as much factual information as possible into each statement and back up with reputable sources, remain calm and objective, and invite hosts who disagree to check facts. There might be a few viewers who aren't complete idiots and can recognize reason and truth vs. mania?

We need to find a way to force Faux News to either present accurate information or else to call themselves Fox Entertainment. They'd really have a fit if we pointed out that propaganda like this was a cornerstone of Nazi Germany. (I can hear Ann Coulter shrieking now...) But seriously, is there any way to hold Fox "news" accountable to give Americans accurate information? Most of the really hateful stuff is coming from people who were asked for "analysis" (opinion) and not for data, right?

It is my belief that doing anything to call attention to Fox "unfair and unbalanced" news reporting actually gives them more publicity. I cannot think of any liberal democrats that do not have an understand the nature of Fox. I have chosen not to watch because it causes my blood to boil. I think we need to remind people about all of the benefits that exist because of Liberal Democrats. They have done a better job at "demonizing" the word liberal. They have also have done the same thing with Abortion. What we acutally believe as a liberal democrat is in, "Choice." We can and will win by takinga positive posture. I know it is only semantics, but we need to educate and re-educate people about liberal and choice. I believe that we present a positive side for getting out of Iraq, we only need to say it over, and over, and over again. A simple repetitive message along with being proud to be liberal. I know I am!

Fox Propaganda (not news) is the most corrupt network media conglomerate in the world. They have no interest in the truth. The only want to brain wash people into believing right wing, war mongering, oil monopoly, religious extremist, elitist messages so the public will remain ignorant so they can be economically exploited.

I truly believe that the two party system is not working. Each party throws out wedge issues to hide thier own hidden aggenda. We are born naked and unknowing and through time we spoil as desire shapes our will. Is there really any real truth or is all media only concrerned about the bottom line. $$$$ I only wish that we could agree that killing others on the pretence of many lies is an impeachable act. Down with the Bushites.

I applaud you Robert. Consider yourself a patriot of the highest order. What's really happening here is Fox likes ratings. So to hurt them the worst to bring down their ratings. People need to discover other media outlets other than cable news networks. The reality for Fox Noise is that they wouldn't in their right mind admit they're a propaganda outlet. But that is what has to happen. I do believe that the Republican party is on the way to self destruction through corruption. Not to say the Democrats don't have a share in this too, but to a much smaller scale. So what really needs to be attacked is corruption. Expose the most of it you can through all the other media outlets. Make sure Fox always gets the story last. This way it always sounds like sour grapes. The more politicians are outed the better it is for the system as a whole. So my advise to news organizations is that if they want true unbiased, balanced news then out every corrupt politician in DC. Show them the true power of the 5th estate.

Don't waste your time...turn the TV off and read the news, in NY Times, Finanacial Times, LA times etc. and create a public forum in your community (those who want to think and discuss the political issues of the day) such as my friends and I did 4 years ago. We have a substantial base here and we do this monthly. Topics are always controversial to one degree or another. In other words create a civilized arena where people's views are valued and developed. Good Luck!

Fox News made the following comment:

"Here is my comment
I accidently came accross this site--this is the most ridiculous web site -- a site based on hate of a cable news network!

Guys--get a life--If you have nothing better to do then TIVO Fox and post idiotic posts!

My suggestion, learn to--ready for this--I'll go s l o w

TURN THE CHANNEL

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!!"

I have advice for you Fox News:

My suggestion, learn to--ready for this--I'll go s l o w

Hit the back button on your browser.

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!!

Another suggestion: How about if Robert Greenwald challenges O'Reilly and/or Hannity to a debate on Countdown or Colbert? If they decline, just think of the fun we could have mocking them!

I really think there are only two alternatives: boycott appearing on FOX and/or boycott FOX News' advertisers. I don't think the former is worthwhile -- it seems like surrender to the idiots to me -- but perhaps you should recommend to Democratic legislators and other reasonable people that every time they appear on FOX they should warn FOX on the air that they (FOX) must provide balance in their coverage. I'd recommend that you craft a short sentence to that effect and send it to anyone who is likely to appear on FOX.

As for the second alternative, I believe that you should assemble a list of advertisers and coordinate a mass e-mail campaign to those advertisers, threatening a boycott. I'd be happy to participate.

Yes, we should boycott fox until they tip over.

We only perpetuate their theme of being "balanced" when we "dignify" them with a sounding board.

With great public announcement, indignation and fanfare, we should seek news outlets that truly are "fair and balanced" (if such a thing exists), and give the other networks an opportunity to serve the intelligent interests of the American citizens rather than their purient interests, news not entertainment.

On the subject of the Petraeus/Betrayus MoveOn ad, it was a very unfortunate choice of a headline because it created such outrage that the important substance of the ad was totally overlooked. That headline was reminiscent of the type of over the top bombast used by fox, and it was counter productive...a very expensive error.

What it boils down to is that neither Congress nor the U.S. Senate 9/11/01 Investigating Committee could declare war at the Mid East since the Afghanis and the Iraqis were cleared of any misdeeds against this United States. The 'Terrorist Attacks' ordered on that infamous date were endorsed by terrorist-collaborators in what was a U.S.Congress as a 'Declaration of War' against Americans implicitly to destroy our American Constitution, our American birthrights, heritage, high standards, ethics, law and civil order, to ruin our American Way of Life, and to demolish this American Republic into a Third World Hovel, and that to put us under the rule of thugs, hoodlums and Nazi goon squads all of them now paid our U.S. tax dollars to work for Federal and State governments pursuing Search & Destroy missions under a Bush W Nazi Racial Profiling System to destroy our abodes as the breeding grounds for all future American leaders; to use American homes for animal pens and our families for meat maladies and body parts for 'A Lucrative Business'; criminalizing Americans to degrade us into a 2nd rate citizenry and to run a pigsty we once called America on deficits as these harebrained bushies and their ass-lickers are good for nothing else! -Al Koppel.

What else can you expect from FAUX, I mean FOX News except conservative Republican propaganda!

What you really need to do is EDUCATE people so they will be able to tell for themselves what is fact and what is fiction. If they are intellegent and are able and willing to ask questions, they will be able to reason and discriminate as to what is NEWS and what is partisan commentary.
There is no law that says entertainment must be "fair and balanced" and the FCC doctrine that mandated such (in political debate, only) was struck down under Reagan, and finished by the FCC commissioners serving under Clinton.
You all need to KICK OUT all the incumbents in congress, and elect representatives with backbone and moral character. They should have turned the dogs out of this administration YEARS ago! Instead what we have BOTH in congress and the White House are pigs feeding at the trough of big business and corporations. Unless and untill that is done, we will continue to have more of the same...killing in the name of our corporate/oil driven lives. Wake up Amerika!

Anyone who has had their eyes & ears open for the last six years should simply make their first sentence this: The real question you should be asking is who blew up the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001 and then anthraxed Congress & the Press? Then no matter what their response the next statement should be: So then, you too are part of the cover up?

What fox?
Bush who?

Well, I was going to watch the video, but I can't because it has Ann Coulter in it. She wigs me out something fierce. I long ago used the cables "lock & limits" feature to block fox news, as well as that other channel with the some beck guy and that nasty scary looking witch, I forget her name. Doesn't matter. Anyone who watches this crap is obviously a complete idiot.

Isn't it time we questioned the motives of the Australian millionaire, Rupert Murdock? Where do his allegiances truly lie? Certainly he has proven that he wishes to promote a highly conservative ideology, but does he truly have the best interests of the United States at heart, or does he prefer to undermine the idea of clear and open debate that is one of the basic tenants of our democratic society.

P.S. whenever I stay at a hotel or motel I always use the remote control to remove FUX from the channel line up, certainly a form of "fair and balanced" censorship to match their own. Also, I hope to frustrate Chaney should he ever stay in one of those rooms.

I think, one by one, we should pick a company, or a company's product, who advertises during the news segment, and (with coalition partners from other big groups) boycott that product or company.

To be successful, there would need to be a lot of planning and coordination

This is where Fox is vulnerable though.

wHY WOULD A DEMOCRAT EVEN CONSIDER GOING ON THE AIR AT FOX TV? THOSE PEOPLE ARE SLANTED ON EVERYTHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WILL CONTINUE THE BS i.e STAY THE COURSE THAT GEORGE BUSH IS PUSHING AND PUTTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DEEPER IN THE HOLE.

Screw Fux ! What kind of schmuck watches this swill anyway ?

take way their fcc license for news. they are not news.

I never watch them or disney ,or abc. And cbs is not much better as well as cnn. gee that about does it doesn't it. pretty sad ,but I have to agree,with one of the other comments that our country is full of ignorant and proud of it bubbas and betty boufants. the truth doesn't interst them even if they could find it. they would rather fall on bush's sword than admit their complicity in death and detruction worldwide. ignorance is bliss didn't you know? concetrate on impeaching bush and cheney and trying them for war crimes. the rest of the world will form a coalition of the willing like never before witnessed in the history of the world

Isn't FOX using "Fair & Balanced" documentable as False Advertising by now?

Somebody sue!!! Make them use:
"All [Big] Business; All the Time!"

I didn't read all the comments, but,....
When someone testifies to Congress, isn't the idea to question him? OH wait, he was not sworn in therefore, we have no right to question him.
Seriously, what is wrong here?? And why did it say 2008??

Most people only want to hear what they already know. Fox is their answer to not thinking or questioning. Ann Coulter is so far out there that she will eventually trip herself....let her...same for Fox. I was surprised that G.W. was elected or selected the first time and shocked that people didn't realize that by voting "against" Kerry that were re-electing the same person who had been saying for years he would do for America what he did for Texas while Governor. It is always a bonus to know what the far right is saying. Hear it and file it away. You can't change stupidty if "they" won't think! Final thought...use some common sense America...all Democrats and Liberals support our service people...they are their sons and daughters. God Bless them and protect them!!!

Let me start out by stating the obvious, Fox sucks. With that being said they are a force to be reckoned with as far as cable news networks go. As long as democrats, independents, or any non-neoconservative go on the programs offered on Fox they will be unintentionally giving credibility to the network. As long as Fox has credibility they will be a strong force. To take away this credibility all non-neo cons need to loudly refuse to have anything to do with the network and state why, making sure to point out some of the glaring atrocities committed by this horrendous network.

You folks expect way too much out of our fellow citizens. Just because we've helped win a couple world wars and have a number of technological, medical, and military patents under our national belt doesn't mean we're the best thing since sliced bread. As that one bumper sticker says "One Nation, Undereducated", we are becoming grossly ignorant, intolerant, and complacent... and that's where FOX wants to keep us.

Forget Faux News and stick to PBS, and C-Span for real information and Olbermann's "Countdown" for hearing someone speak truth to power and Bill Moyer on PBS Friday nights. Then supplement those daily with Truthout and Factcheck on the internet. Add NPR and Air America Radio (the latter admittedly liberal)for radio listening and then top it off with Jon Stewart's "Daily Show"..and take time to read Newsweek and The Nation. This website and Newshounds ("we watch Fox so you don't have to") do a good job of monitoring the Fox False not Fair news. Husband and I are both 75 so have seen a lot, but Fox -- which I watched for awhile until O'Reilly and Hannity made me sick--is absolutely on the bottom as far as balance and truth ... they are not a even a news network but an unbalanced right wing opinion network!

All Democrats must boycott appearing on FOX.

I oppose a boycott of FNC by Democrats and their supporters; it gives FNC more opportunity to accuse us of being scared, thus providing them with ammunition.

Boycott any sponsor of anything broadcast by Fox - not just the news channel, but anything connected with News Corporation (Google "Rupert Murdoch to find out how many media companies he runs).

To the lady in Canada, I'm in the UK and I boycott anything owned by Murdoch (who also failed to serve in the Australian military, despite them having conscription at the time).

Finally, lobby your Federal lawmakers for a legal requirement for "fair and balanced" - the equal time provision is the answer - if they are forced by law to give Democrats equal time people will at least hear their arguments.

After all this, yes, turn the station off - if everyone here gets their sympathetic family and friends to switch the FAUX news channel off then there will be a significant downtick in its viewing figures making it much less attractive to advertisers.

Finally, spread the word - write your local newspaper, call your local talk-radio, argue your case, don't let people believe that the FAUX word is the only word in town.

I feel strongly that the ONLY way to deal with FOX News is to continue to highlight and speak out against its tactics. FOX News’ credibility has taken a big drubbing thanks to Outfoxed, Brave New Films, Media Matters and, at the risk of patting myself on the back, News Hounds and other blogs. Before Outfoxed came out, nobody was talking about FOX News bias. Now, it is a mainstream issue.

Obviously, more needs to be done and I argue that we need our Democratic and liberal leaders to challenge FOX News directly. Yes, instead of denouncing MoveOn, they should be denouncing the so-called “fair and balanced” network that demonizes them at nearly every opportunity in ways both overt and sly.

As anyone who has dared to suggest this to me knows, I am positively adamant to the point of apoplectic that a boycott of FOX News will never happen and that any such “movement” would be counterproductive. In the first place, as long as FOX News gets good ratings (and let’s face it, the sorry fact is that it still does), politicians and others will go on. Dennis Kucinich is a regular guest, Charles Rangel has been a repeat visitor and even the FNC-vilified Barack Obama agreed to an interview with FNC’s Carl Cameron last week.

Secondly, even if all liberals boycott FOX, that would not deter the network from spewing its deplorably partisan messages. I’m not sure where the left got the idea that if they just turned their back on FOX, it would be outed as the propaganda machine that it is. Where is the evidence for that? In John Kerry’s refusal to dignify the network by refuting its Swift Boat lies? In the lack of voices telling them that it’s the war, stupid, not the MoveOn ad?

Even if the network is (further) exposed as tripe that not mean that people won’t be paying attention to it. Rush Limbaugh is nobody’s idea of neutral or even journalistic but he still carries a lot of clout. Even worse, look at Ann Coulter. Is there anyone other than a FOX News fan who takes her seriously? Yet, she gets air time not just on FOX, her column is in mainstream newspapers, her books are put out by major publishers and sold in national chain stores. On the other hand, when Elizabeth Edwards gracefully and courageously called Coulter on her vile tactics on Hardball, it got national attention, there was a spike in Edwards’ fundraising and real attention was paid to Coulter’s contemptible methods.

In fact, there has already been a Democratic boycott of FOX News. Democrats have withdrawn from two presidential debates, thereby putting an end to them. Satisfying, yes. But the Democrats made hardly a squeak about the bias on FOX – even though much of it is directed squarely at them – once they withdrew. How much has FOX News’ credibility been damaged in the resulting silence since? If there is to be a boycott, it would have to be loud and public, the way, say, the boycotts in Selma occurred. What are the chances that Democrats are going to do that? Slim to none, in my book.

So in my view, our efforts would be far better spent in urging Democrats to speak out against FOX, whether they go on or not, and to create an army of spokespeople who DEMAND to go on and know how to deal with what they will face. No, they won’t get a fair shake but they should expose that, publicize it elsewhere if they get sandbagged and know how to get out an authentic and proud progressive message under the adverse conditions they will undoubtedly face.

Besides FOX News’ bias, another sad fact is that many, if not most of the Democratic and progressive guests do a miserable job that can’t be blamed entirely on the unfair setup. Some spend more time sucking up in the mistaken notion that being friendly to the likes of Sean Hannity will prevent him from smearing their Party or their politics. Others think they are there for a real debate and get sandbagged by the political theatrics FOX News specializes in. Few seem to take the time to study the tactics of their “enemy” and adjust their own accordingly. Those who do, excel. I created the “top dog” category on News Hounds to prove that it can be done. Rep Charles Rangel, Jon Soltz of VoteVets.org and Democratic strategist Jane Fleming Kleeb are a few of the consistently excellent guests we have honored.

Most viewers of Outfoxed remember young Jeremy Glick, son of a 9/11 victim, who so flummoxed Bill O’Reilly that his “Shut up!” became part of the national lexicon. In his Outfoxed interview, Glick explained that he prepared for his interview by studying the show – to the point of using a stopwatch to figure out how much time he’d have to talk. It’s disgraceful that professional Democratic pundits who make a living opposing people like O’Reilly can’t be bothered to make the same effort.

If the Democratic leaders and spokespeople do their jobs well, I believe we have the muscle and liberal-message infrastructure to get the message out. Jeremy Glick gained prominence via Outfoxed, not FOX News. He stuck in viewers’ minds because of his dramatic confrontation with O’Reilly. Glick would never have had anything close to the same impact if he had boycotted O’Reilly and had simply explained to the camera why. Just as with Glick, with the phony Obama “madrassa” story, with John Conyers being "mistaken" for William Jefferson, we have proven to have the muscle and liberal-message infrastructure to get the message out whenever a Democrat is treated unfairly. But we need them to work with us.

I think we have a much greater chance for success in trying to prod them into doing their job better than we do at getting them to turn their backs on what they consider an important outlet for them.

Sorry for the long post but this is something that I have thought about, even obsessed over, for more than three years, since I first had my eyes opened by working on Outfoxed.

Fox is not news but propaganda. They are exactly what Danny Schechter is addressing in his book- The Death of the Media. With the death of legitimate, investigative journalism will be democracy itself for the two are irrevocably joined. The comment of the viewer to just "Turn the channel." is representative of the ignorance of so many Americans who are too lazy and/or too opinionated to see anything but the projections of their own egos. History will record how a mighty country fell into a hypnotic, self-imposed delirium and faded from the world. It's sad!

To the very first person's comment. The crux of the matter is that Fox claims to be a News Channel, an agnostic news channel. If Fox came out and said they were a Right Wing Propaganda machine, then there would be no issue...another analogy would be if there was a White Supremist Station, you would simply not watch it, becuase they clearly stated what they stand for, but if a news station marketed itself as a true agnositc news station but all it played was clips marketing white supremecy, everyone would have an issue. The same thing applies here...Fox should not be allowed to call themselves a News Station, since by default that means objective news coverage and clearly with all the lies that they have spewed, this is not the case.

I salute all and anyone who attacks fox news because the whole world is slowly realizing how unfair and unbalanced this channel really is. You guys should watch the document about fox (unfoxed) and its owner, and how much they have a political and religious agenda!!! This is and has to be the worst media joke there ever was. If you guys want real news, tune into anything other than fox because they are such hypocritical liars and they are being unmasked. This is why corporations and advertisers are turning away from them; because the world is realizing how corrupt and fake they are. They get paid so much money to traduce reputations, start innuendos and promote Christianity by undermining other faiths. What a shame and scam, and how sad that airtime gets wasted like that. Trust me, the corp. elite funding they receive will soon cease because the world is getting smarter and following people like Olberman and MSNBC and turning away from fox propaganda! Ps: Colmes, I give you so much credit for what you do being on the same show as that half human who pretends he represents Christianity. Colmes you are a savior on that channel and if they get ratings it is because of you. God bless the truth!

Alright, everyone; we've seen the facts, seen the figures. The FOX station gave the Hawks four times the time interval allotted to the Doves – (approximately) 12.x to 3.5 – thus showing that they are clearly on the side of further attacks. I do not know why they are thus aligned; but the thing I'd prefer to do is to strengthen our own points of view.

To me, this says it all:
Democrats:
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
>* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
>* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V,
Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
Paraplegic from war injuries. Served in Congress.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaignribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars,andSoldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
>* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
>* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
>* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
>* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
>* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but
>received #311.
>* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
>* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
>* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and AirMedal with 18 Clusters.
>* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul
>Wallenbe! rg. ;
>
>Republicans -- and these are the guys sending people to war:
>* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
>* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
>* Tom Delay: did not serve.
>* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
>* Bill Frist: did not serve.
>* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
>* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
>* Trent Lott: did not serve.
>* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
>* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
>* Karl Rove: did not serve.
>* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max
>Cleland's patriotism.
>* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
>* Vin Weber: did not serve.
>* Richard Perle: did not serve.
>* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
>* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
>* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
>* Jon! Kyl: did not serve.
>* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
>* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
>* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
>* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
>* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got
>assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S.
>Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
>* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non- combat role making
>movies.
>* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
>* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
>* John McCain: Vietnam POW, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit,
>Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
>* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
>* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
>* JC Watts: did not serve.
>* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem, " although continued in NFL for
>8 years as quarterback.
>* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.&n;! bsp;
>* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
>* George Pataki: did not serve.
>* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
>* John Engler: did not serve.
>* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
>* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.
>
>Pundits & Preachers
>* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
>* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
>* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
>* Michael Savage: did not serve.
>* George Will: did not serve.
>* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
>* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
>* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
>* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
>* John Wayne: did not serve.
>* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
>* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
>* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
>* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
>* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
>* Michael Medved: did not serve.
>* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
>* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)

Please keep this information circulating

Do you still patronize businesses that advertise on the propaganda site, Fox News?

You're right, Jesse. It is my bias that news reporters and news organizations report the truth, in all of its shades. I, actually, insist on it.

It is also my bias that freedom of speech is respected. That is why forums such as this one allow people such as you to do counter-influence on their members. (At FOX, O'Reilly yells at people who disagree with him to shut up and get them off the air in a nano-second.

FOX and other news organizations spend millions upon millions to propagate support for their agendas, using any lie they or the Republican Administration invent. That's what I oppose -- not their opinions (as ruthless and short-sighted as it may be). I oppose the lying and twisting of the truth.

When someone like Bill Moyers come along with a counter-piece that exposes them in their *lies and bullying*, I can't stop myself from applauding.

Really, Jesse, you should see "Buying the War" before you comment on it.

Send your video and analysis to Keith Olberman at MSNBC's "Countdown" program. Maybe he will use it on the air. He might even name Fox "News" as his "Worst Person In The World."

I don't know what to do about Fox's right wing propaganda. At first, I didn't realize when watching the Emmy's I was on Fox and was shocked at their censorship of various respectable people. Once I realized it was Fox, I turned the channel and realized that their cancerous views were seeping into regular programming. The kind of people who insist on listening to Fox's spin on what is happening are not going to change nor believe anything else. They are narrow minded, one information source kind of people and will vote accordingly (right wing Republican). These people have already drank the koolaid and won't tolerate other views. I participated in watching Fox News and recorded all the sponsors so I could boycott them, but when I got to Bill O'Reilly, I couldn't take anymore. Also, any station that would have Ann Coulter on is just as sick as she is. I refer to these kind of people as a cancer that is killing our country. Unfortunately, we cannot perform surgery and cut them out.
The only actions available to us are loud protests and boycotts of both Fox News and their sponsors.
I hope someone can come up with something else more creative and effective.
FYI: I boycotted Home Depot AND China by returning a light fixture and telling the low-level person why I was returning it and she just looked at me blankly thinking I was a nut. I told her to be sure and tell her manager why, but I doubt it went any further. We need to affect them financially as money is the only thing that matters to these kind of people, but unless the boycotts are done on a large, loud scale they won't even notice. Thank you for all your efforts!

I agree with 2 statements made more than once above: 1. If we punish Democrats for going on Fox, there will be NO way for the lost souls who watch to know that there is another, better, way; 2. Hit the pocketbooks of the advertisers.

I would love to see a campaign against Ann Coulter showing her hateful face on the media waves any where at any time. Can we bring litigation against her for lying about our thoughts, feelings and opinions about our brave troops??? Or, we could just throw rotten produce at her...

I think that NESARA should be announced, then immediately our president and his administration would be automatically removed , and all troops would be brought home. We could also get rid of all media that is owned by the Illuninati. How's that for getting rid of most of our problems?

I NEVER watch Fox news because it's well known that it's biased and full of b.s. just like Bush & Cheney!!!! I'm a Vietnam Veteran and I'm all for them all coming home safe and healthy ASAP. PEACE&LOVE;&GOODHEALTH;!!!! Larry Penna, beatlelp, aka, "Big Papa"....P.S. I always have and always will support our troups!! GOD BLESS AMERICA.

I NEVER watch Fox news because it's well known that it's biased and full of b.s. just like Bush & Cheney!!!! I'm a Vietnam Veteran and I'm all for them all coming home safe and healthy ASAP. PEACE&LOVE;&GOODHEALTH;!!!! Larry Penna, beatlelp, aka, "Big Papa"....P.S. I always have and always will support our troups!! GOD BLESS AMERICA.

I NEVER watch Fox news because it's well known that it's biased and full of b.s. just like Bush & Cheney!!!! I'm a Vietnam Veteran and I'm all for them all coming home safe and healthy ASAP. PEACE&LOVE;&GOODHEALTH;!!!! Larry Penna, beatlelp, aka, "Big Papa"....P.S. I always have and always will support our troups!! GOD BLESS AMERICA.

PS, the accompanying news story should be of a growing mainstream investor revolt, or investor worries, regarding FOX advertisers.

NOW I know why my grandfather was so worried about the FOX getting in the hen house.

Jesse Pomeroy,

I didn't say "Buying the War" was unbiased; I said it was an "expose." Learn your stuff before you comment, you generalistic idiot.

And, knowing so well that I am keyboarding to a mule, I'll point out nevertheless that the expose is not labelled "News." Is there a snowflake chance under the sun that you grasp a hint of difference? Of ocurse, not! Sorry for hoping that you would actually use your brain.

Liberals & Democrats should entirely boycott appearing on Fox "News" to the point where the only supposed liberal on the entire channel will be the incompetent Alan Colmes.

I think a group of investors should be organized to buy shares in companies advertising on FOX. This group would then attend stockholder meetings (en masse if possible) and complain, as stockholders, about the ill effects of effectively endorsing FOX's storylines. For example, by showing up at Home Depot's annual meeting as a stockholder, one could complain directly to the board and investors that Home Depot's GREEN marketing is directly undercut by funding FOX's anti-environment stance. Shareholders also have the right to talk directly to Stockholder Relations, which is much more responsive to your comments than is Customer Service.

The person who says "turn the channel" has a good sense of humor, but not much (if any) social conscience. The point is not whether we "enjoy" this kind of "yellow journalism" or not. The point is that most people go to the "news" for their EDUCATION, and when an alleged "balanced news" show is so vehemently slanted, and CAN influence an unsuspecting audience of millions who simply don't know they're being manipulated, this is DANGEROUS.
The person who says "get a life", and "change the channel" must be very happy with the way things are in he world today. That person must be happy with how the current administration is consistently stripping away our Constitutional Rights, must feel completely fine about that fact the we're even IN Iraq, let alone how things are going there,(since it was THE NEWS that convinced so many of the lies that allowed the initial invasion to take place), and must not care whether we are driven into Iran. Because, folks, it's THE MEDIA that influences public opinion and eventually legislative policy. Whether we like it or not, "news" and "polls" driven information is the world we live in. So Brave New Films has decided to *do something* about it. Personally, I'm grateful to them, and I say PLEASE CONTINUE and get as widely distributed as you can. Please provide the "counter education" that is so sorely needed in this country - in hopes that we don't become a police state, or worse, an out and out dictatorship. Because while some people are out "flipping channels", too many of our country's citizens are dozing off and quietly being hypnotized. We are teetering on the brink of NOT being able to DO SOMETHING about this. Greenwald and company - I applaud you for *trying* while you still can. Aloha from Maui.

The sad thing is that average people are dealing with their own stresses and struggles. Juggling two or three or more part time jobs, struggling with day care, their child's education, their health and/or lack of health care, trying to keep their children safe and in school. Do they have time/energy to care about Fox News? Do they have the skills/will/energy to make a difference? Do they care when they don't even have cable to watch the news, or the time to watch it while they are overwhelmed with trying to eek out a living for their family?

Yes...Fox News is an abomination. I'm a Canadian. We have Fox News in Canada. I don't watch it and I take every opportunity I can to slam Fox News. I try to be informed. From Canada, there is not much I can do, except turn the channel.

Does anyone have any concrete suggestions of what we Canadians can do to help?

very tanks Mr.greenwald!

If anybody's reading this far. . . .

The strategy is simple.

1. Ignore FOX. They are the paid agents of the corporate/fascist movement that's working to undermine our democracy. We know that. So let them undermine their own credibility, and ignore them.

2. Don't go there.

3. If any OTHER so-called news organization cites FOX as the source of any story, or repeats a story that FOX made up without attribution, jump on THEM with both feet. Challenge them to act like a news organization. Some may be thinking that repeating stuff FOX made up IS acting like a news organization, since the practice is so common these days. Educate them on their responsibilities.

4. Boycott. Let any company that advertises on FOX know that they are thereby losing business. They may care.

Give 'em the 1-2-3.
1. Boycott FOX the Channel.
2. Boycott the Advertisers!
3. Tell the advertisers what you're doing it and why.) Get FOX where it hurts!

Fox News and Fox News listeners/watchers are the least informed people in the US. First Iraq was WMDs. No good, not there. Then they were behind 9/11. Oops, no good again. Now it is fight the terrorists. Stupid stupid stupid. No one hates the troups but a lot of folks think this war is unwarranted. There are now terrorists in Iraq because we are there. Most didn't even exist prior to the invasion. How many billions of our tax dollars must be thrown down this hole until the rest of you wake up. This Republican administration has been the most expensive, least representative, and the most attacks on our rights of any previously. If the Patriot Act was only Patriotic. Very little to do with terrorism. This administration is more dangerous to our country than the terrorists they propose to fight. Ann Coulter has her description of our troups and we have ours. They are brave patriotic souls dumped into a secular war with no meaning to us. This was about OIL.

We are only influenced by the stimuli we allow into our own consciousness. Fox's biased 'news'is only one flagrant example of what television generally has been allowed to become. Karl Marx called religion the "opiate of the masses." In our time television has replaced religion in that role. Fortunately, there is a very simple solution to FOX, CNN, ABC or any other television network having too much influence over our thought processes. Every single television sold in the world comes with an "OFF" button. USE IT ONCE AND LEAVE IT THAT WAY! Drape a nice piece of fabric over the TV and place a potted plant on top. Or better yet remove it from the house altogether.
Then go outside and see what real life has to offer. You'll be amazed.

I'm a 20 year retired disabled Army Veteran. I chose to go in the Army out of patriotism. My IQ is 134, never been arrested for anything. Fox uses Ann Coulterfor a mouth piece. She says the Democrats don't support the troops? But only after she says this crap" > "Soldiers are just cowards with their backs against the wall. The lowest IQ men in our society, those incapable of normal careers enlist. Their choice in life; prison or the military." Ann Coulter – Intervention Magazine 11/06/03

Ummm, Fox is bad - um'kay? I agree that pressure on the advertisers works. Hit 'em in the pocketbook. Run legitimate smear campaigns on Murdoch, Bush, Cheney and the like. Just tell the truth in 30 second commercials and run them. Don't make them too complex - or too much information too fast. A few carefully orchestrated points with powerful pictures. It's called propaganda - and it works. The 'publicans use it, just as Goebbels did for the Nazi party. The key difference is Democrats can use the truth in the form of propaganda. It will work just as well. And by the way, try Bush and Cheney for treason. And why is everyone acting like Bush is President anyway? According to the Constitution, he is a sworn-in sqatter in the White House!

Yes, I think we should encourage liberals and Democrats to stop going on Fox and I think they should do it with pride and dignity and not give in to the inevitable slanderous remarks Fox and the repub's will use to taunt them. Remember what our mother's taught us - the bully's won't win if we simply ignore them.

Personally I've done like others here have done - I don't watch Fox (or as my fav newscaster calls it "Fox Noise" or Fix News") at all.

Short of violence I don't see anything more we can do though. I try to boycott the products that advertise on Fox, but personally I live on disability and I'm in the middle of the 2-year contract with Verizon. I won't go into how mad I got when two days after I got my phone they announced that Verizon was one of the companies 'letting' them tap our calls!! Yes, I'll be switching when my time is up, but who do I switch to? AT&T; is in there too.

To the best of my knowledge I don't deal with Ford Motor Company, Chattem, Inc, Citibank, American Honda Motor Co., Inc., Overstock.com, Reckitt Benckiser Inc., General Motors, The Coca Cola Company, Sears, DaimlerChrysler, Carat USA, Starcom, MediaVest, MediaEdge, MindShare, AT&T;, PHD Detroit, Dodge Magnum/Dakota, LifeScan, Inc.
Levitz, Capital One, Slim Fast, Taco Bell, Blockbuster, or KIA.

I believe that Pfizer may be a drug company and I don't know if they manufacture any of the med's I'm currently on so I have no control over that.

Procter & Gamble makes so many things its hard to know what I may need that they sell.

Admittedly I do use Kraft Foods on a fairly regular basis though, and Verizon I've already covered.

I don't know what Optimedia is, but if it has anything to do with eye care - say manufacturing things that eye doctors use - again, I have no control over that.

Recently I purchased a Toyota and I did it because in Consumer Reports, it is ranked as one of the top best cars available. I'm not about to give it up, but I certainly don't need to use Toyota's services to have work done on it!

I think for most of us its safe to say that the list of advertisers boils down to just a few that we each need/use/use and don't know it. As much as I hate Fox for knuckling under to the neocon's and showing only what 'certain people' want them to show, there are a HUGE conglomerate who are not likely to be hurt by boycotting in the least. They probably have enough money to BUY most of the companies listed, or if one actually does pull their advertising, Fox would just go elsewhere.

FAUX Network is the media of the Fourth Reich!

Notice who posted that they had "accidentally" come across this website, and then went on to call it ridiculous: Fox News!

And they wonder why we hate them. They lie so poorly, but expect to be believed.

Neither networks nor programs should be allowed to title themselves news unless they meet certain criteria. Something's got to be done to undermine the credibility of broadcasts that mainly disguise opinion as news.

Here's my two cents worth. FOX News is being completely irresponsible and should be "shown the door" so to speak. Eliminate them as a "news source" by eliminating them from the airwaves. The use of the Public Airways is a right that carries responsiblities to the American Public. If Fox News and frankly any News organization is being irresponsible they should have their broadcasting license revoked and not allowed to use "America's Airways". I am not favoring censorship, but offering a course of action to curtail blatant lies and propaganda from being distributed to a public less willing to become educated in how they are being manipulated.

P.S. I had only heard of Ann Coulter before I saw this video. Now I understand why so many despise her. What a venomous, nasty, attention grabbing whore. You sell it Annie!

hoe meh gawd

Why didn't Gen. Patreus report to Congress that 50% of the suicide bombers in Iraq are from Saudi Arabia?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20121786/site/newsw...

Robert...read and appreciated!

I heard a report that FOX is losing viewers by the minute. Perhaps it's because most Americans are awake to the fact that the words FOX and News don't belong in the same sentence. For the few who continue to swallow the propaganda dished up by FOX, there is no help. These are people who, like the president, only want to hear things that fit their world view and the truth has no place in that scenario. Fortunately, they are few and getting fewer. Sadly, we must wait until January 2009 before our national nightmare can even begin to be over. Until then, who cares what garbage FOX spews? Hardly anyone is watching anyway.

I am a Vietnam veteran and I have been against this war from the beginning. What I thought was disgraceful was Ann Coulter's remarks about how Dems hate the troops. I wonder how many Afgan and Iraq Vets she knows.
When Keith Olbermann gets back from his appendix exploding after hearing all the BS coming out of the White house about the surge we will have to turn old KO loose.

OK
Here goes!
I have come to believe that the reason people watch Fox is that they don't really want NEWS.

The people in this country are feeling so demoralized and helpless that they are searching for some way (or some ONE) to tell them that "everything is OK. We're doing the right thing.

We are 'Fair and Balanced' after all, so when you get home from work at the job you hate, that pays crap because the good jobs have been 'outsourced' and you and your family sit down to watch the news....we'll make you feel better about what you can't control anyway."

The people that I have come across that are truly outraged are those that have taken the time to inform themselves.

Not everyone HAS that time. Not everyone wants to TAKE that time.

Do you really believe that 30% of the voters in this country support Bush? I don't believe it.

I am retired. But I remember the working days when I had a couple of kids and a mortgage (and THAT'S a whole other story right there!) and my wife and I both had to work because we were just middle-class Joe Six-Packs.

We watched the news only as a preamble to the sit-coms that took our minds off of the daily grind.

That "Person" is still out there. Yes, there is the internet... but that's a recent development that is gaining popularity. That's why the Gov't and the MSM are attacking it. They can't control the message on the internet.

Although the Internet has the potential to be our salvation, I see Big Media and tel-coms and Cable getting their way in this country and limiting what we will be able to see and do on line.

Besides, the mainstream user age is still fairly young and, without leadership will not become a factor in politics in time to avoid the controls the government will slap on us.

Robert, I applaud what you and your folks are doing.

But, if you don't believe what I'm saying, just think about the MoveOn ad. MSM went NUTS. They are going to take this kind of thing (and the truth YOU put out) and point to it as a cause clebre for the "tightening of controls" on our freedom of speech.

Look at Insane McCain! He not only didn't like the MoveOn ad, he wanted them "kicked out of the country!"

THIS IS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE! And no one slapped him down.

I'm sorry to whine. I don't know where to go from here. But I do know that the solution comes from first understanding the problem.

I want to be part of "the solution" not part of "the problem."

So, I'm supporting organizations like yours and taking the time (lots) to hunt and peck out this missive in hopes that an old man's insight may help. (I hope to hell somebody actually READS this after all I've gone thru!)

Keep up the good work. Let me know what I can do to help.

Fox News should always be referred to as a Republican conduit (such as "Fox News: The Conservative Commentary Channel"). So, for example: "Tonight on MSNBC, CNN and Fox News: The Conservative Commentary Channel..." This is always how Fox should be referenced until it becomes a part of the vocabulary and automatic.

Deleted FOX from my cable viewing long ago so was not aware - knew they were spokespeople for the neo-facists and just didn't want to get more pissed off than I already am at the brain dead who go for this propaganda. There must be some way TRUTH can reach these people and allowing FOX to continue is not it. I say botcott EVERY sponsor, any fool that makes an appearance, etc. I recognize the first amendment, but propaganda that is distorting the truth should have to have a dis-claimer stating just what it is.

A great big thank you to CINDY for her post listing many of the corporations that are major advertisers on FOX. I plan to start a letter-writing campaign immediately to each of one of them telling them that I will no longer do business with them while they support Fox News. It may not move mountains but I will sleep better at night. Who knows...others are free to join me.

If the Dems are really concerned over FOX's unbalanced coverage, they should pass the Fairness in Broadcasting legislation that was in force a couple of decades ago. Of course, BUSH would veto it but the voters might notice.

Someone told me that FOX was owned by a Moslem company which in turn affects its bias. Is there any truth to this or is it rumor?

If FOX is owned by a Moslem company, that sounds like something that's news worthy.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure there is anything we CAN do. Since we call ourselves a democratic society, FOX is entitled to run the "news" as they please. If they were the only news source, we could claim it's a monopoly and unfair. However, there are many other news sources from which we can inform ourselves. I don't think anyone can claim that FOX is as reputable a news source as say MSNBC or CBS. However, to deny that many Americans watch it would be naive. We can only hope that it is not their only news source. It is every American's duty to try to get information from all sides and come to their own conclusions after heavily weighing all the facts and opinions. I realize I am being naive in thinking that people actually do this. Ultimately, FOX can hide behind the 1st amendment which they have the right do. Unfortunately, many people support them and it is to the detriment of this country if people do not seek out other sources.

To stop going on the Fux News channel is to let the propagandists win. However, to sit and take it for 7 out of 8 minutes isn't the answer either.

Maybe a harassment call campaign? Callers make friendly with the screeners until they're put on the air, then go gonzo like the Howard Stern prankers? Or better yet, actually ask a genuine question. If enough people get cut off by the producers and hosts for asking questions or pointing out lies or bias, it seems the broadcasts would be disrupted enough to get notice.

Fux News: Lying to America 7 out of every 8 minutes.

Since FOX has blurred the line ( actually obliterated it) between actual journalism and editorial propaganda they need to lose their designation as a NEWS organization. This needs to be done in the most public forum possible to force awareness of the issue to the top of mind for the entire country. They would have to redo the brand, logo and slogan to reflect their new status. FOX OPINION.
Or they can play by the established rules of journalism. Which of course they won't. If they refuse the new designation, yank their broadcast license.

I never watch fox noise because I know how to switch channels but it seems the mainstream media is enabling fox with thier own oneside reporting and lack of integrity.

Charlie's right. Refuse to give Fox press credentials. They aren't, afterall, a news service at all. Beyond that, I think more studies which show that those who watch Fox are misled and misinformed, such as the study which found Fox watchers more likely to believe that Saddam had a part in 9-11, might begin to take the cool off of Fox, even for the less thoughtful and less educated.

Charlie's right. Refuse to give Fox press credentials. They aren't, afterall, a news service at all. Beyond that, I think more studies which show that those who watch Fox are misled and misinformed, such as the study which found Fox watchers more likely to believe that Saddam had a part in 9-11, might begin to take the cool off of Fox, even for the less thoughtful and less educated.

Turning the channel is not an option for defenders of truth who see Fox as a lie machine in league with the corrupt Bush Administration and aimed at brainwashing the citizenry. We will continue to keep an eye on your antics and will call attention to the tripe being fed to the people.
To claim Fox is Fair and Balanced is a lie. This is not news; this is commentary, pure and simple. Even if Fox just fessed up to the fact that they are NOT balanced, this would all be more acceptable. Still gagworthy, but acceptable...

In regards to this comment:
"I accidently came accross this site--this is the most ridiculous web site -- a site based on hate of a cable news network! Guys--get a life--If you have nothing better to do then TIVO Fox and post idiotic posts!"

The irony is too perfect. You are criticizing a website that focuses on pointing out the hipocracy of Fox News yet you, yourself have a USER NAME of Fox News. And we're pathetic? Maybe you work for Fox News and have been given the task of trolling for criics. Again, I ask "And you think we're pathetic and should "get a life"?

That's just priceless irony. You can't make this stuff up.

Please...don't believe for a minute that FOX "News" is harmless. Like someone said earlier, they are a propaganda machine calling themselves news. They have the right to say whatever they want, but cloaking themselves in the label of news... translated to "the truth"...is hardly harmless.

When you know that the majority of people who watch FOX as their primary news source believe 1) Iraq was responsible for attacking us on 9/11, and 2) weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq...doesn't that scare you??

Granted, people should take personal responsibility. But most of us get news from one, maybe two places. People who landed on FOX News are being fed lies and prejudice (like Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden were in cahoots, all immigrants are thieves and rapists, the Patriot Act only affects bad people, etc.)... basically hatred of anything not white and not conservative.

It's dangerous. They have a right to broadcast what they want but they should be forced to change their name to FOX Commentary.

Yes, Fox is biased. It spews a lot of hatred, fear, and just plain lies intended to provoke more of the same.

...and, my comment may shock you, under free speech they can say whatever they want. I don't think the answer is to try to silence or even discredit them. I think the answer is to get your own TV show! Make it bigger, better, and filled with integrity.

Yes, I know. They are broadcasting their views as NEWS. This is, indeed, deplorable and shocking. It's underhanded and inflammatory. AND we need to counter it NOT by attacking back (which will just lead to more of the same on their part), but by out doing them in the name of honor, integrity, truth... and, ah hem, a word not used in politics, but with love.

Yes, Fox is biased. It spews a lot of hatred, fear, and just plain lies intended to provoke more of the same.

...and, my comment may shock you, under free speech they can say whatever they want. I don't think the answer is to try to silence or even discredit them. I think the answer is to get your own TV show! Make it bigger, better, and filled with integrity.

Yes, I know. They are broadcasting their views as NEWS. This is, indeed, deplorable and shocking. It's underhanded and inflammatory. AND we need to counter it NOT by attacking back (which will just lead to more of the same on their part), but by out doing them in the name of honor, integrity, truth... and, ah hem, a word not used in politics, but with love.

I just have to answer Ann Coulter - I can't wait to get my toothless, illiterate rapists home. I really missed them.
Thank you for doing this.

FOX network is a totally biased propaganda machine for the Bush Administration and the Republican party. I say, keep on exposing them for what they are and what they are doing to divide our country. The Dems should simply boycott them and refuse to be a whipping boy for their political machinery.

Why don't people and especially democratic politicians start pointing out that Fox is nothing more than the mouthpiece for the neo-conservative movement, not the republicans as a whole, but the neo-fascist-conning America. The weekly Standard is THE center of neo-thought. It is owned by Murdoch and the writers for this rag are the regular guest political commentators i.e. Kristol, the editor of the mag.....They cheerleaded this war at Fox because it is THEIR war and they have responsibility for this FIASCO perpetrated on the American public through a very calculated propaganda campaign spearheaded by .....FOX. So if you are a listener to Fox and your son, brother, father, friend comes home maimed or doesn't at all, you as a viewer keep them on the air. As long as they are on the air the more lies and propaganda, the more lies and propaganda, the more support for the war, the more support for the war the more dead Americans, not too mention billions going down a rat hole that we need for so many other projects here at home. So POINT OUT THAT THEY ARE THE NEO-CONNING NETWORK TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE YOU CAN. HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WAR BY WAY OF THEIR CONNECTION TO THE brains THAT CONCOCTED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep doing what you are already doing, perhaps with less comment. FOX 'NEWS' preaches to its own choir just like Michael Moore does. Neither can effectively move anyone in the other camp because their own agenda is so obvious. Presenting facts like you have in this video w/o comment says all that needs to be said for anyone who has not made up their minds. Mr. Moore's well researched work could have more impact if he did not insist on forwarding his own outlook. I suggest presenting facts on issues with an attitude of the greater good for All--in this nation--on the planet. Keep it up!

Steven wrote:

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

This sums up the journalistic "ethical" integrity of this "News" network. During the 2004 election cycle I recall watching a talking heads "debate" that included Ann Coulter and the typical strawman liberal. At one point Coulter asserted to the effect (not gonna call it a quote as I did not record it) that it was entirely fine for a political candidate to LIE about their opponent and it was then up to the target to counter it. Not even couching it in terms of "opinion" which is the "safe harbor" so to speak from slander claims.

NO ONE called her on it.

That was the last time I actually watched FoxNews - other than in analysis vids such as BNF produces - just did not have the stomach for such garbage.

It amazes me that you still get so upset about Fox. They do what they do and we all know it. Those who swear by Fox aren't going to change their minds because they WANT to believe what Fox tells them.
I rarely watch FOX and when I do, I have no problem changing the channel when they get too absurd. May I recommend you do the same before you have a heart attack over them? They aren't worth the aggrevation. Do what you have to do to stop them getting too out of hand; just don't get upset about it.

Democrats should not go on the FIXED FOX NEWS. It is propaganda and Americans deserve better than this. We need to know the truth, so that we can make informed decisions. Going on FOX is giving creditibility where none exists. We also need to re-instate the law that requires Fairness in reporting. Those uninformed fox-watchers do not even know that 80 percent of the hijkackers who killed us on 9/11 were Saudis and that Iraq had nothing to do with those attacks. Pitiful.

Since the record of this "event" was clearly recorded and sliced and diced for this analysis, perhaps BNF could also post an analysis of:

1) The advertisers who did advertise during the event.
2) The advertisers who generally advertise on FoxNews.

Give the people here what they are clamoring for - the economic information to hit the network in the only place they care about - the pocketbook.

IF the much ballyhooed %'s regarding those who watch and don't are true, they'll have to think long and hard about losing the business of those who let them know they will dump them, even if they do not watch Fox.

The problem is that there are so many people out there who really believe EVERYTHING the 'Fox' says, so perhaps it is still essential to continue to call them on the discrepancies and blatant lies. You and I know the reality from fiction. Unfortunately, many, many people don't, and it is Fox's mission to keep people as ignorant and complacent as possible. Sorry, but I'm not going to let that happen.

they can only be fought with the one thing that can hurt them, money. if you could, find or publish a list of their advertisers so that we may send them letters saying we will not support their products/services while they are supporting such inaccurate and biased news that keeps people supporting the war.

and the only reason this won't work is because everyone has to buy their Coca Cola at ALL costs. the one way we can accomplish success happens to be the lengths that even the most ardent of anti-Fox supporters aren't willing to go to.

this is a battle that I don't think can be won in this kind of society. and that breaks my heart.

Dear Brave New Films,
Clearly the un-american propagandic nature of Fox News is now understood by a majority of Americans otherwise we would not see polls suggesting that 60-70% of the populace believes that Iraq was a mistake. So true to our market driven society we need to;
1) boycott all those manufacturers that advertise on Fox
2) make sure the advertisers know that they are being boycotted.
3) place Ads in major newspapers (that murdock doesn't already own) stating who the advertisers are, ask for a boycott and explaining why fox prpaganda is so unamerican
4) encourage ALL politicians to refuse to participate with Fox due to its unamerican propagandic nature regardless of which side of the issues they may be on.
5) As soon as politically possible create (replace) laws limiting media ownership

Ann Coulter is losing it and how other newsmen can sit there with a straight face while she's foaming at the mouth about how the "Democrats hate the troops", and "They want us to lose the war". She's so extreme, how can anybody take her seriously?

The voice of reason must doggedly pursue any and every opportunity to appear on Fox in the face of childish name calling and disreputable statements faced. Otherwise, the majority of mis-informed citizens who believe their hyperbole would have no exposure to the truth. We have to take every opportunity to provide this audience with concrete facts, facts, facts.

Prime example, in my "news infancy" I began watching Fox not knowing they were biased. If I had not seen some opposition to their outrageous statements I would have accepted their rhetoric as the truth. Lots of people out there to influence by having a voice on this network.

The solution is to not watch Fox News, and to make sure they know they are losing viewers. Not that I watch Fox News anyway, but obviously enough people watch it to keep them in business. It's just embarrassing!!

I guess the "Pros" and "Antis" show you what kind of people watch FOX. How can they fall for such propaganda? If people are taught how to think and not always what to think, a false concept will be guarded against. Guess these people don't know how to think. How unfortunate for the rest of us. Keep up the good work and give us the truth as usual.

Fox Noise ... while laughably degenerate, commands far more attention than they deserve ... but as noted by Kathleen, CNN's Christiane Amanpour says they "intimidate the other networks". So maybe we can intimidate them right back.

Dem's boycott Fox. For sure. Viewers boycott Fox AND their sponsor's. Yup. Non-viewers need to boycott the sponsors as well. And, are there any concerted-effort websites identifying the Top Ten Sponsors of Fox Noise and what tele-numbers we call to complain about said coproration's collusion with Fox?

How 'bout we also write our Senators and Representatives demanding a reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine. These are, purportedly, the People's Airwaves. Tell 'em Kucinich has got it 100% correct and we, the people want our airwaves free of garbage.

Remember the Maine. Another phoney excuse for war. Hearst and Murdouch two rotten cess pool suckers, appealing to the very worst in the worst of a bad lot. Rally round the flag whilst we kill these babies. Better fight them there than here. Too bad they never had the means or intention of fighting you anywhere. Heartless sick bigots attacking the innocent to steal from them. That is the USA and Isreal today. We here in Canada are guilty of holding the bully's coat. Shame on us.

You couldn't pay me to watch Fox news. They are so one sided it is a joke. News is supposed to be reported, Fox takes a side to the wide right with everything. Ann Coulter is fun to watch because she is an aging woman who hides behind that mane of hair and flips it around so much, it seems like an insecurity thing.

I never watch FOX News it is worthless, if the Dem's don't see this well they are too. Let their fair and balanced news be all neocons.

DIDN'T SANTORIUM GET HIS ASS KICKED LAST NOVEMBER ?

We need the major organizations that are trying to return common sense to this country to JOIN TOGETHER into organizing a *MASSIVE AND EFFICIENT* boycott of the FOX News (and any other of their talk shows - anything with Bill O'Reilly and his sidekick Ann Coulter, for sure (I can't believe that woman - she shames our gender).

I don't ever watch FOX anymore; therefore, I don't know which advertisers support their policy of venom and hatred. Like so many others said in their posts, it turns my stomach to listen to them.

My husband is a trucker. He says that most truckers listen to FOX (main channel in every motel room and truck stop)and believe everything they hear.

One thing that conservative America understands, no matter what, is its bottom line. If we would really conduct a sustained boycott for as long as it takes, advertisers would end up pulling their ads from that station. FOX would have to adjust.

I totally support these idiots freedom of speech, but when it is presented as news reporting, it has to be acurate. FOX News has nothing to do with news. It has to do with presenting opinions as news.

POSTING HERE AND TALKING ONLY AMONGST OURSELVES WILL DO NOTHING TO CHANGE THEM. LET'S GET THEM WHERE IT MATTERS THE MOST TO THEIR BOSSES. LET'S BOYCOTT THEM DILIGENTLY.

Kicking at Fox is like not buying a copy of a newspaper -- negligible effect. The key is advertising revenue, the only thing Rupert Murdock really understands. So why not add easy posts directly to Fox advertisers on these egregiously slanted segments? If Pillsbury appears during these segments, then put a quick-comment link directly to Pillsbury (copy to you guys, if you want). Otherwise, we're just a bunch of guys on the street corner playing "Ain't It Awful!"

Ann Coulter is the best thing that ever happened to FOX NEWS. She is so hyperbolic and outrageous as to become a laughing stock and a clown. She is so totally rediculous that even most neutral people would be driven to the left by her rants. If FOX can't see how damaging to their cause she is, they are more stupid than even I thought. I hope FOX keeps her forever and gives her a big raise. We on the left need her on the right as an example of just how insane FOX is.

BOYCOTT MAINSTREAM MEDIA + VOTE RON PAUL = Take our country back.

Didn't Hillary Clinton take some money from Mr. Murdick who owns Fauxnews? Makes one wonder about her sensibilities in light of this report. I too think a boycott of advertisers would be a good thing to do, but I seldom buy much and never watch Fauxnews, but it would be good to know who advertises there.

Organize a boycott of all FOX programing. People should be willing to give up the Simpson's for a worthy cause. A boycott of their advertisers would also be an excellent idea.

Unfortunately all MSM is outrageously biased. Real change won't happen until we have legislation setting some kind of standard for programing that can be presented as news.

BOYCOTT!!!
The only thing any corporation and its' shareholders care about is profit. If some one was to list all advertisers during Fox news and the thinking portion of the country boycotted these products, then perhaps there would be a proper response from Fox

Under Reagan the law requiring fair and balanced reporting was ditched. Work to get that law reinstated.

You can take a horse water, but you can't make him drink. Even
if Faux noise is taken off the air, these brain dead people who
believe its nonsense will still be braindead. The dumbing of
America has worked. The most mentioned comment I get when
discussing this illegal war is: "well, we can't just leave that mess
that we made." That is the dumbest argument I have ever heard.
Faux noise spews out such nonsense on a daily basis. You can
bet those pinheads at that station are making a lot of that illegal
money being stolen by these criminals in our administration. Faus news can go straight to hell, and take that skinny harpie, Man Coulter with them.

Fox News is a third rate new station, exceeded by all cable news channels, network new stations and the Canadian National, BBC Network and even the Comedy Network. I've has Fox Network Blocked on all TV since 2002....I don't even have kids!!!!!

You know you are right when the Bushies start complaining about telling "the truth" about FauxNews. Of course, any American that supports people such as Bill O'Lielly, Shun Hannity and Ann Coulter, the one that said she didn't want girls fighting her wars and that girls in the military are appalling, need some serious help. I was so sick of the Bush/Cheney FauxNews that I blocked it from my T.V. I support anyone and anything to get rid of FauxNews or at least insist that they be "fair and balanced" like they say they are. Anyone that hasn't noticed that America is more divided than ever since Bush and his Bushies took over and do nothing except trash a majority of Americans that disagree with their constant ranting and raving about anyone that dares tell the truth about Bush and his administration.

Whenever my surfing lands me on Fox I'm reminded (over and over again) of that old song by Frank Zappa, The Slime:

"I am gross and perverted; I'm obsessed 'n deranged I have existed for years, But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government And industry too
For I am destined to rule And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get; Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out From your TV set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help . . . no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right, folks . . . Don't touch that dial"

no more need be said.

What is needed is a Media-Carta. Adbusters I believe is the name of the organization, who propose this idea. When you are not allowed air time even if you can afford it, something is wrong. I do not mean hate speech or crude titilation or corruption of minors.

I believe that FOX (news) with it's handsomely paid demagogues spouting propaganda for the Republican Party is a serious blight upon the U.S. media and society. Impressionable young people (and unfortunately non-progressive adults) are cheated out of the information necessary to make intelligent decisions which affect their personal lives and the life of this once-great nation. An organized boycott by all Democrats, Progressives, Independents and thinking Republicans of appearances on the station and products sold by it's sponsors would perhaps force the demise of this menace. Perhaps then we won't have to change the channel as the recent FOX commentary to this website so arrogantly suggested.

I am used to it Democrats should stay away with any kind of luck Fox News will inploed......

I can think of only 1 reason for a progressive to watch fox news.That would be to see who their advertisers are and refuse to do business with or not buy their products.Basically voting with your wallet and you can do it every time you go shopping.

Critical thinking is on the decline. There seems to be quite a retinue of those who refuse to open up their minds and hearts and consider something different then spoon-fed junk. Fox sucks! I don't watch it and am proud to say that I know no one who does. I support independent radio and independent television, and we have much more interesting debates in my household than those on Fox do, you can bet on it. Boycott FOX. In a land that encourages -ahem- so-called free speech, I guess they have the right to be, but we don't have to participate in it. I guess when all is said and done, it's better to know what the fools are up to.

"...democrats, they want us to lose, they hate the troops...they think that they are a bunch of toothless, illiterate rapists...".

Well I certainly didn't say all that! Why on earth would we hate the troops?? This makes no sense, and I can't understand why a fellow American would suggest this.


We don't want to lose any more than anyone else does, but when it's clear that our involvement in Iraq is not helping then it's time to pursue OTHER MEANS OF PROGRESS.


Why does it always come down to win vs lose?? This is how children think, not adults. Time to grow up now.

It really isn't worth my time to comment on the scum that they pass off as news but the idea that they should censor the Emmies! It was shocking to see the screen go black when Sally Field had her say about the state of the world. I make it a point never to watch this cesspool of a station but we wanted to see the Emmies. Never again! Fox should be prevented to air any show that has any value. We know that they are just whores so we shouldn't be surprised but it's always a shock when something that moronic happens.

Good work Brave New Films! You help stop the brainwashing that Murdoch and his cronies love to inflict on us. Hit them where it hurts in the only language they understand, their sales. Boycott their advertisers! Fox still believes there is no environmental crisis for God sake. Who watches this stuff anyway? It is a mission and a half to reach these people. Peace to ALL!

The FCC supposedly has power to see that the public airwaves are used responsibly. That hasn't been done for decades under both Republican and Democrat regimes. I personally never watch Fox (maybe a football game but I'm trying to give that up). I hope the advertiser campaign works--Fox only understands money, and its owner is a top-rank money person. Actually, Fox is a laughing stock accept among those who only want to hear that very crooked slant. Let them drown in their own vomit.

Ronald James

If we know they are doing unjustice, We the people need to take them down(period)

It's critical to keep the main thing the main thing; too often we are so outraged by this that our reaction is to attack Fox rather than to persuade the people who get their news from Fox.

Not all of the people who get their news from Fox are crazed nutcases, some are nice people who lack critical thinking ability. Why do they watch Fox? We need to find out. I suspect it's because it's entertaining, doesn't tax the mind much, and stimulates a little adrenaline in a dull life.

Brain research is demonstrating that humans are not the rational creatures we like to think we are, we actually make decisions based on our emotions. Liberals tend to make rational arguments; conservatives make emotional ones. It doesn't help the liberal cause to further inflame the emotions of liberals about things like Fox; what would help is touching the emotions of the people we need to persuade and inform. We need to get smarter about how to do this.

I think Democrats should NOT go on FOX. FOX hates them. Why give them more fodder to use against us. A friend of mine who watches FOX News firmly believes that Barrack Obama is a Muslim, and that I am going to be very disappointed when I finally find out the truth! FOX reports lies and distortions and does not retract them. Democrats/Progressives/Liberals STAY AWAY FROM FOX.

I'm sorry, but it's going to take a draft before anyone starts paying attention. And even then... Sad state of affairs. But go back and read how Reagan (then gov. of California) and Nixon manipulated/prepared the media knowing full well what would happen when they went into Cambodia. The Whitehouse has a much tighter grip on the media than Nixon and Reagan could have even imagined.

And you DO know that "Betray-Us" didn't even write the report.

All responsible politicians with any integrety should boycott Fox. All companies doing business with Fox should be boycotted. Other news organizations should be pressured through boycott to report the fallacies of Fox News. Pretty much we should just kill the TV.

All the PX's (us military suprmarts at Military Posts) are ordered to have Fox News on in their TV and appliance departments. Government (Bush adminstration) propagands is pervasive throughout America. It is so overwhelming as to make sensible americans to often feel hopeless.

This issue is not well understood by many Democrats, after all the Fox news insider mantra is "we must have a few token Democrats and secular liberals so we are not that obivious.

This discussion is interesting and critical as we approach the time of stolen elections. Other cable networks however fall into the same conditions often. ABS, CBS, NBC don't take a stand against FOX. PBS does in Bill Moyer's Journal and NOW. In fact they bring out the truth in such a way as for it to be scary, because you feel at heart its true and with such a truth, what can you do?

Communist attacks on unbiased news channel

Zieg Heil Fox!!!

I've read alot of great ideas above on how one might affect change with this pseudo new organization. I'm not that familiar with legalities of the first amendment, but is it possible to suggest that legislation limiting what can be call news and what must be labeled as editorial reporting has a chance at beign enacted?

Why would any Democrat go on Fox Noise? Do they enjoy being attacked, distorted, and used? We have several Democratic leaders who seem to be able to get the best of Fox. They should be encouraged to go on as often as needed to expose the propaganda machine.

The idea that "National News" of any stripe is "news" is really a laugh! It is diatribe, pure and simple. Almost pablum. What is lost in the see-saw of ad hominum arguments is any semblance that corresponds to reality.

Funny, that.

It's almost like the Disney-Generation somehow grew up believing that if brooms could walk and talk, and mice and ducks act like humans, then anything we're able to produce is "real."

If we "say" it...it must be "real."

So one side or another "says" whatever they want...and it therefore becomes "real."

Does anyone ingest this stuff?

If I wanted to share something that corresponds to reality...in other words, something that is actually "real" instead of "make-believe real"... I certainly would NOT show it on FOX Spews. I'd find another venue.

The problem is millions are watching Fox and being brainwashed and frightened by their version of the spin. Therefore, how do you reach those people, interfere with the programming, break the pattern, so that they can read between the lines and realize they are being fed lies.
How do you wake up a nation of sheep before they are slaughtered by the wolves, when they have been trained to sleep?
For each fact presented by Petraeus, my local paper countered with researched fact....kind of cool. The official version, and the truth.They went fact by fact. Perhaps that kind of intervention might be effective in some way..in films, ads, emails.

Notice the response from Fox News. Just like everything else on Fox "News", they don't argue the facts, they just abuse the person. This is called an "ad hominem" argument. When someone does this, it makes you believe they can't address the facts honestly.

I don't see any way to beat these money machines except through legislation. What we need are national standards for journalism and new FCC regulations for news programs. All public broadcasts should be required to meet these standards. If they don't, then they should not be allowed to use the word "news" and be required to post a permanent disclaimer, "For Entertainment Only" on screen (or frequent announcements for radio) so that every viewer will know they are watching an entertainment program -- not the news. Thus, entertainment shows such as Fox, Rush, Paul Harvey, and John Stewart would all have to carry the 'Entertainment' disclaimer and discontinue using the word 'news' in any part of their programming.

Getting fair out of the unbalanced Fox would be like getting Jamestown to undrink the koolaid. Jamestown is dead and Fox might as well be broadcasting in Latin. I flushed that bowl of crap a long time ago.

Fox needs to be banned from airing "news" and calling it what it is OPINION by the FCC. Or label it Unfair and Unbalanced noise. Just my opinion and the reason I seldom stop on any FOX Channel for any program.

Major Fallon is releasing his report also, which completely contradicts General Petraeus testimony that the surge is working, blah, blah, blah, and the mainstream corporate media does not mention Major Fallon's assessment whatsoever. Fact is, 80% of Iraqis want the U.S. troops out of Iraq now, and want the numerous "secret" miliary bases built since 2003 to be closed, and 80% of all Muslims believe the U.S. invaded Iraq to control Iraqi oil (Iraq has 112.5 billion barrels of proven cruide oil reserves -- and gas as well, not to mention vast areas yet to be drilled) and to build military bases to stay in Iraq long-term. The U.S. government wants the Iraqis to pass a hydrocarbon law as one of the benchmarks that gives private U.S. and British oil companies ownership of most of Iraq's oilfields through long-term agreements, 80 known oil fields for foreign oil companies and 17 for Iraqis. The law Bush wants the Iraqis to agree to give the oil companies a seat on the Iraqi Federal Oil and gas council, and the proposed law would give foreign oil companies (US and UK) the power to let the oil companies approve their own contracts. HELLO!! Sounds like theft to me. The Iraqis have offered several plans for reconciliation, but they have been flatly rejected by the Bush administration AND Congress, including Patrick Leahy(who accepts the most APIAC money of any member in Congress) who called the Iraqi proposal unconscionable. In November 2005, the Arab League hosted an open-ended peace conference on Iraq in Cairo. This peace conference had the support of teh United Nations, the European Union, and all of Iraq's neighbors, as well as Russia. About 100 Iraqis attended the meeting, including Sunni, Shiite, and Kurdish leaders. The United States was the only major player who did not support the Cairo conference. No U.S. officials were present at the conference. The U.S. does NOT WANT TO LEAVE IRAQ AND THE CORPORATE MEDIA SUPPORTS THIS EFFORT TO ILLEGALLY AND IMMORALLY OCCUPY AND DESTROY THAT COUNTRY. This effort has been in the works not just since 2001, but for decades!!! The FOX's unbalanced network is a cheerleader and sounding board for the criminal Bush Administration -- the most corrupt administration in the history of this nation. FOX network needs to apologize to the troops they say they support. FOX cannot possibly support the troops or the Iraqi people since they continue to exclude the voices of truth while supporting lies and hatred of anyone contesting their position. Since positions contrary to support of the Bush administration are simply ignored, rejected, or censored, I propose boycotting FOX altogether. It seems a waste of time and counter productive in the quest of truth for alternate views to appear on FOX network.

It's very simple. Raise the money, put a full page ad in The New York Times and a few other select newspapers. Maybe put a banner ad on Drudge or some other websites and launch a boycott of all the sponsors they have. Do the research, list out the companies/products and call for a boycott until they do a mea culpa and change.

The crazy thing is that they are getting away with this on public airwaves!! And obviously, don't watch the station!!

Better yet, turn off the TV!! It's all corporate run anyhow.

Well, at the end of the video it says "do something" and what exactly are we supposed to do? Our representative government (which is actually voted in probably because Americans don't have much of a choice any more between yuck and yuckier) in reality does what it wants.

As far as FOX is concerned, if they get the viewership they'll continue to do what they're doing, won't they? Who can blame them for wanting to make money, both off the advertisers because of high viewership and in alleyway governmental deals for putting out the correct spin on things.

I've been screaming at Dems, Liberals and even those that just might be objective, to stop going on Fauxnoise. Face it, you're only invited there so they can beat you down and whatever you say isn't going to influence their viewers one iota. So why bother? Boycott, ignore, don't talk about them, don't even acknowledge their existence. I've removed them from my TIVO selection list and am contemplating developing some of those 'can't be removed' day-glow windshield stickers - like the ones they put on abandoned cars along the Interstate - that say something like 'Friends Don't Let Friends Watch FauxNews' or, 'I Came In Here To Relax, Not To Have My Intelligence Insulted By These Bastards', and affix them to the screens of TV's in bars, restaurants, waiting rooms, etc. that are tuned to the '*' noise network. Of course you're probably gonna have to expect to be asked to leave, or get your ass whipped, or arrested, or something - but at least the point will have been made, and besides, the sooner we get the fight started the sooner we win. I mean bars that know they could be asking for a brawl just by having 'that' channel on, might decide it isn't worth it. Short of that, just ask them to change the channel...to anything, even 'I Love Lucy' reruns.

Beyond that, once Dems take over the White House, the first thing should be to overhaul the media ownership rules and reinstate the equal time thing, then we can get on with dismantling this bunch of bastards, scatter their asses and pour salt on the ground. I'd personally support deportation of Murdoch and worse for Roger Ailes, Hume and the rest - drawn and quartered would be near the top of my list.

All I can think of on how to attack this neo-nazi channel is to go after their advertisers. Let them know how we feel about their "support" of this nutwork. But,I too, cannot stand to watch anything on Fox but the Simpsons so someone will have to continue to inform the online public of who is advertising and then we should take it from there.
Only the threat of a boycott of their products will wake these companies up. For you hit them in the pocketbook and they will listen.
As for Democrats going on FOX they should before they say anything inform the Tv audience that this network never allows the truth to over shadow the nutworks agenda...

Fox is good for shows like the Simpsons & the Emmys. For real journalism, forget it! No better than the NY Post, beneath the Natl Enquirer.

We need a wholesale boycott of the Fox network, and to aggressively promote and explain our boycott, just like happened with apartheid South Africa.

We must first isolate Fox, which would also help against contamination with other channels, then it will wither on its own vine.

First, Thank you Mr. Greenwald for the tremendous work you do overall in exposing the vast amount of corruption and injustice in this country. What people who are disgusted with FOX "news" can do is turn off every FOX channel like my wife and I do. We don't watch anything on FOX and the only news program we watch at all is Keith Olbermann who is the only journalist actually reporting the truth.

Democrats must appear on the Fox Opinion Channel if for no other reason than not set a precedent to be used later to exclude contrary opinions, legally, in the future. There is no law, statute, or regulation that requires FOX or any other network to tell the truth! That needs to be changed.

The "good news" is that those who swallow the FOX line consist mostly of the 25% +/-3% authoritarian archetype Republicans that John Dean first described in his book, "Conservatives Without Conscience," and has developed further in his new book, "Broken Government." When you understand this, you literally know who the enemy is and how you can marginalize that very dangerous voting block. The real worries are with the undecided, uneducated that could be drawn to the Dark Side. This is why, painfully, democrats/progressives/liberals must continue to endure the abuse on the various FOX Opinion programmes.

We need to hit them where it counts in their pocketbook. Everybody needs to start calling and e-mailing their sponsors and tell them you are refusing to buy any of their products because of their propaganda reporting and stand by your word don't buy anything from any company that advertises on Fox.

OK, I like the idea of boycotting the advertizers that put Ann Coulter and Hannity and the rest on the air. I try not to watch that crap any more so who are their advertisers? Help!

We must organize in masses. Make sure that all Progressives are united in continuing to put pressure on advertisers, boycott the station, write to local cable companies asking them to take the Fox station off of your cable, etc... Numbers talk and unless we are willing to do something collectively, we will have no effect on them whatsoever. Fox is never, ever on in my house and if I go into a sports bar, pizza parlor etc... and Fox is on I ask management to change the station or loose my business. They always change it. BE VOCAL, BE ACTIVE!

I liked someone's suggestion to boycott companies that advertise on Fox news. I never watch Fox news and would like to know who the advertisers are. I would not only avoid buying their products, I would let the advertisers know it is because they support Fox news, which is anything but fair and balanced. Money talks, even with Fox. Where can I get a list of the advertisers without having to watch the program?

I have never understood why a democrat woulod go on Fox Noise. IT'S NOT A NEWS NETWORK! To take these knucklehead interviewers seriously is an insult to true newspeople everywhere. At least the few that are left. While MSM is not much better than Fox the fact is, MSM is better. By appearing on Fox Noise liberals and Dems only give credibility to the vitriol. Why play in a rigged game? I just don't get it.

Progressive liberal pundits, peace activists and politicians, all thinking Americans should just stop going on Fox. Just let FOX be what it already is because the people that watch are probably immovable anyway. Do not provide FOX with material, targets, anything... stop going on the network.

Also, alert their advertisers that you will not purchase from them.

Dennis Kucinich knows what should be done about Fox -- bring back the Fairness Doctrine. We need the Fairness Doctrine in our media in order to be an informed public.

"Boycott Fox",
Advertizers will soon discover fewer are tuning into Fox (Bush's propoganda network) and spend their add dollars elswhere. Kill Fox!

I doubt that there is a more despicable person on the face of the earth than Ann Coulter. Her venomous hate and mean-spirited views have no place on television and shame on ANY network that gives her a forum to express her sickness.

FOX News is the official mouthpiece for this lying sack o' crap Administration. I would think anyone who isn't braindead would have realized by now FOX reports fictional "news" that's ideologically biased. Rather than advise liberal (i.e.- sane) Democrats or independent-minded Republicans who don't buy the Administration's blather to not appear on FOX- I think a better campaign would be to encourage both Democrat and Republican legislators (via email or grassroots organizations) to call for Bush and Cheney's resignation while defunding their war profiteering scam called Iraq.

I'm a student majoring in media here in Mexico, and it is a University class example, the distortion in FOX News' information delivery. It falls in the "what not-to-do" category in every single example they teach here. I'm not saying it doesn't happen elsewhere, but what FOX News does is just absolutely offensive to the common sense and a mockery to its listeners. What's worse, millions of people still watch FOX News not noticing. I mean, really, The Simpsons and Family Guy, who are on the same network (at least down here) make fun of the absurdity of the FOX News ways.
If anyone is going for news broadcasting: please, please, if you consider yourself a fair journalist, don't ever do this. See FOX News as the example to not follow. You'll be doing the profession, your colleagues and co-professionals, and the people in general, an enormous favor.

Robert? How about you making videos of rebuttles to post here everytime Fox lies about the "war on terror"? Maybe feature some of the heros in the House and Senate who are not getting any coverage? We here know what's wrong, broken, unfair, unbalanced and insane with Fox "News".

Let's focus on the great opportunities we have going into 08 and the people in our government who are currently working to take back America. AND, if they are Republicans, even better!

I'm opposed to escalation, but I think your analysis may be flawed here. You need to attack, not Fox News's 7-to-1 ratio in their presentation, but the assumptions underlying that imbalance. This is made explicit in your own clip: Near the end, you show one of the newscasters saying

"It looks like the adults are in charge, and that's a very important thing for our men and women in uniform."

That's what Faux News would like to convey: that withdrawal is a childish idea, and the warmongers are the adults. That notion justifies the imbalance of time. I mean, would you give equal airtime on national tv to (for instance) John Edwards and your 3-year-old daughter?

So I think you're attacking the wrong thing. Instead you should attack the misleading and/or altogether false statements and spin. And, though this may be harder to make stick, you can also follow the money and expose *why* Faux News wants to mislead the public.

Ann Coulter sayas that liberals throw rotted fruit at her. What a great idea. Does anyone know where she will be speaking in public next?

Because the First Amendment of the Constitution protects journalists, the media has a serious responsibility to present fair and balanced news. This type of unbalanced coverage creates a misinformed society that acts and votes without knowing what the issues truly are. Plus, the remarks from Ann Coulter (about Democrats hating the troops and thinking they are "illiterate, toothless rapists") were too vile to repeat in any media.

I'm glad there's someone out there who serves as watchdog of the powerful FOX news outlet. Someone needs to call FOX on their lack of balance (which they claim to have) and to show them for what they really are: a vast right-wing propaganda machine.

They, who are the first to claim that the news media has a "liberal" slant, fail to see their's is more than just a "slant" but a mission for they seem hell bent on removing anything liberal or progressive or critical from the airwaves.

FOX must use Goerge Orwell's "1984" as their primer, and if we allowed them to get away with their censorship, (See Sally Field's acceptance speech at the Emmy Awards Ceremony) we would be living in an Orwellian World.

Thanks, Greenwald, we need people like you to keep the world safe for free speech and democracy!

I agree, if dems stop appearing on Fox News, the people who do watch and believe it will only be worse off. A boycott is the way to go. They need to stop calling it "news" and call it "news commentary" or perhaps "news skewed to fit our views and fed to you with a spoon."

Of course Democrats should be encouraged to boycott the Fox News channel, it's bias is discraceful, and has no journalistic credibility whatsoever. For Democrats to turn up on Faux News sadly gives this channel some form of credibility, but only for those incapable of independent thought...

As an avid news junkie, I sometimes force myself to tune into Fox, just to remind myself just how biased and intollerant this so called news channel is. I often wonder what the average IQ is of folks who tune into Fox to get their daily news fix...

To say "TURN THE CHANNEL" is the source of the ignorance behind every problem we face. Yes I can change the channel and I am fine, that still leaves these lying, propoganda artist on the air fillin ghte heads of the idiot who not only elected the worst president in History, but continue to support him still based on the lies they hear on FAUX news.

Call out the advertisers, ask them publically why they support this trash network! Put out some videos of the Head of Ford or Coke or whoever advertises on these rediculous shows and ask them why they support this hate America speech. Fox News says more hatefull things about Americans then any terrorist ever has.

Fox is biased. So when are we going to wake up and do something about it? We appear to be a nation of idiots, sitting in our homes and watching TV without the thought process interfering with our lives.

Open letter to ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN:

"My station was intimidated by the administration and its foot soldiers at FOX News."

That is a quote from CNN's Christiane Amanpour explaining why the major television networks failed to accurately inform the public in the lead-up to the Iraq war, choosing instead to follow FOX's lead.

Now, FOX is beating the drums for war with Iran. Robert Greenwald's short film, "FOX Attacks: Iran", outlines the evidence from the station's
own broadcasts, comparing their reporting before the Iraq war with what they are saying now about Iran.

http://foxattacks.com/iran

FOX has a sacred responsibility to the American people to provide accurate and reliable information so we can best make the decisions that affect our lives. I urge FOX and other major television network news stations to accurately and thoroughly report all sides of this important story.

Please do not blindly follow FOX down the road to another war.

I am sickened by Ann Coulter's remarks that the Dems "hate the troops, think they are illiterate, toothless rapists..." As a former 'troop' myself and knowing many troops myself who are against this occupation of Iraq, it points out the absurdity of her statement. She is an attention hog and I guess outrageous statements like that get her where she wants to be (in the limelight) at any cost, including the truth. When FoX first was broadcast, I liked to watch it,but no more... it caters to the uneducated, extreme right fundamentalists, the screamers, the hate mongers and to those who cannot read between the lines. When someone tells me they get their news from FOX, I know exactly who they are.

FOX makes me literally sick. . .I commend BraveNewFilms and encourage continued exposure like this one of FOX's propaganda techniques. I'm undecided about whether liberals should continue to try to get their positions across on FOX or not. . .maybe if we shun them they'll go away??

OK. It's this easy. Who bought the most commercial time around the Patreaus hearings? That person gets boycotted for the next 30 days. See if we can cause that company's sales to slip by just 1 or 2%.

Of course, if it was Halliburton or KBR or ADM, we can't have any impact on their sales, as they are just using the advertising buys to prop up their propoganda machine, because they don't actually "sell" to Fox viewers.

I have been writing to my Democratic representatives for years, as well as the DNC to stop Democrats from legitimizing the FOX so-called news shows by appearing, but to no avail. The Democrats do not listen to their constituents, otherwise we'd be impeaching Cheney.

It's absolutely amazing what they get away with. How is that possible? How can they call thmselves a news channel? In the Faux news world the war is going great, we'll eventually find WMD's,global warming is a hoax,Scooter Libby was found not guilty, Mark Foley is a democrat and the MSM is completely liberal! There must be something that can be done about this dumbing up of my country!

I introduced my class to Brooks Jackson's book (unSpun) yesterday and encouraged them to 'live' at factcheck.org!

Let'sboycott all Fox advertisers (except those who buy time on The Simpsons)

The first post by FOX cracks me up. It they followed their own advice (and "changed the channel") they'd have nothing and no one to aim their slander at. Funny, on the other hand, we should follow that advice. Why don't we call for a massive boycott of FOX. It would have to have an impact, we (kind, liberal, thinkers) are in the majority!

FOX should be refused press credentials at any Democratic event, as they have shown they are an ENTERTAINMENT/PROPOGANDA channel and not a news channel.

Democratic candidates should pledge never to go on any Fox show, and not to appear at any Fox event.

Democratic voters should pledge not to vote for any Democrat that has anything to do with Fox, period, end of story.

No one on the face of the earth, including the people at Fox News, believes for one second that they are 'balanced'. They don't want to be. They have an agenda and it is obvious. Why Democrats bother to even 'try' to reason with this crowd is beyond me. Of course they should refuse to go on. To those who say that is giving them a 'free ride' at Fox, who cares? I would be very surprised if any 'regular' supporter of Fox News has EVER voted for a Democratic candidate for President!

The only thing that works is to let the advertisers know about a campaign to boycott them if they continue to advertise on this news show. It's always effective.

What's ridiculous is your inability to comprehend the enormous power of the media, generally, and fox, particularly, to influence the way Americans think and understand their country and its place in the world and in history. If you did have such ability, you would then understand how crucially important it is to insist that such power be exercised responsibly.

EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION: OUTSOURCE BUSH/CHENEY


UN-EMBED FOX WAR IS PEACE, FAIR&BALANCED; IS SKEWED

Hate to say it, but if the Liberals and Democrats stop going on Fox News and getting trashed by those idiots, then the other idiots watching that garbage will think that everyone is the same as they are. Talk about Stepford America.

Fox News is a dangerous element in our society, in my opinion. It is propaganda passing itself off as "truth" or reliable reporting. The American public is manipulated by Fox News into bad choices. I like the fact that Robert Greenwald takes the time to show me how really bad Fox News is BECAUSE I never watch it, I do change the channel (Don't even GET that channel) so I appreciate the Brave New Films input. Keep it up

Dem’s are still going on FOX, I had no idea. Weren’t they debunked long ago?



Those ideologues’ (like that awful young woman on ABC’s The View) will stick with FOX ‘til hell freezes over because they, like Bush, cannot admit failing of any kind.



You must continue by all means to EXPOSE the unbalanced crap that FOX puts on the air to Democrats, Independents and moderate Republicans. American’s aren’t stupid – they see through the lies when presented with them. I personally NEVER watch FOX so I have no way of knowing what lies they’re telling now. Those who do watch who are not ideologues’ should be SHOWN the lies over and over again!!!!!

ummm... the ad says, sept. 10, 2008. Am I missing something here?