OMG, Lonewacko I've been debating you for how many years now? Too many to count. You full well know there is no college discount in the federal DREAM Act. All these years have passed with us arguing online and guess what? I graduated High School, then college and now that that's over, I'm still here and you're still trying to kick me out and lying through your teeth to do it (classy). I've known you for so long it's almost like you're my own bigoted uncle who hates his bastard niece. I still love you lonewacko even if you hate me and even if you have no qualms about lying to kick me out of the country. I'm still around despite your best efforts. How come you forgot to send me a card for my college graduation? Come on, we've known each for so long, that's the least you could do.

I'm not from California and I didn't get in-state tuition. That was your assumption.

No one paid for tuition but me and my family Michelle. I don't where you got that idea that the government paid for any of it.

Michelle, I worked 30-40 hours a week while attending college. I still pulled off an A average with a full course load. I went to a competitive school with a competitive major. I got an average of 3 hours of sleep a night. Nothing comes easy for us. 4 hours of homework isn't that much, in college I used to study on the bus, while walking to class, working out, even while I was sleeping I would play recordings of my lectures (my roommate hated me). But I was determined to do my best. If I had been an American citizen, I would have gotten a full ride but I wasn't going to cry myself to sleep over it. I did what it took to get an education and if your daughter is anything like me ( the fact that she volunteers for the special Olympics is something we already have in common) she will too. Don't sell your daughter short. Blaming us because your daughter didn't get an A is unreasonable to say the least.

How did this turn into a B versus A student discussion? I think Michelle is just a lot older and not as informed about the college process as those of us who are more recent grads.

Michelle, state schools are usually sorted like this. Usually one or two major universities (such as UCLA, Berkley)usually very competitive to attend and then several state universities and colleges that are a lot easier to get into. Go to collegeboard.org for more info if you don't believe me. You'll find public schools that accept B students.

A B in high school is like a C in college. If you're a C student in HS. The odds are you are not going to pass (need a c or high to pass classes in college) college classes. It's a waste of money and time to fail a class. So don't try to blame colleges not accepting C students on immigrants either.

Michelle, UC Berkley an UCLA are upper tier schools. Of course they turn most people away. What's next are you going to use Harvard as an example. If you want to go to college in this country and have at least a B average in HS, you can go. There is not a shortage of colleges.

"never bothered to become a citizen" ????? What do you think she's trying to do right now by helping to get the DREAM Act passed? It's not as easy as filling out a form. And no 25% of our jails not ful of "illegals", stop making things up. Immigrants — both legal and illegal — do not raise the rate of crime in the United States, according to a study released Monday.
In every ethnic group, incarceration rates are lowest for immigrants, even those who are less educated

Chris, Iamashadow pays every day for something he really didn't have a say over yet he's learned to overcome it and succeed despite the odds. I realize not everyone is blessed with the ability to feel empathy but at least appreciate everything he has accomplished.

Chris, Iamashadow pays every day for something he really didn't have a say over yet he's learned to overcome it and succeed despite the odds. I realize not everyone is blessed with the ability to feel empathy but at least appreciate everything he has accomplished.

Wow, you told a complete stranger? I could never do that. Maybe you have more faith in humanity than I do because I would be afraid they would make a call to ICE and my worst fears for which that I sought counseling for in the first place would come true.

What costs people? The DREAM Act would not give money to DREAMers for them to go to college. Instead it would allow those who do attend college to work in their fields. I have a college degree in the sciences yet I do work that doesn't even require a high school degree.

Jim, you do realize that marriage to a US citizen is by far the easiest and fastest way to become a U.S. resident? By most people's standard's it's an ordeal so imagine what people who aren't married to U.S. citizens must go through to become U.S. residents.