If I had one of Kravis' homes for a Holiday, I guess I would invite the homeless to come and stay there.

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Perhaps I misunderstood the premise. What would I do if I spent the holidays in a Kravis house, or what would I do if I OWNED a Kravis house? The dichotomy makes all the difference in the world.
If I could legally spend the holidays in a Kravis house, I'd go out and find homeless people and give them a taste of the good life for as long as I could. If I OWNED the house,I'd have it demolished because such places have no reason to exist.

I do know its wrong what Kravis has done to others, including the video winner and her husband. The winning video is a great satirical response to the absurdity we experience in our world today, and because we know it's unethical to carry out the video's message it fails to engage or inspire the viewer with what we really can do to make a difference. In fact when I first viewed the video, I thought okay I might have clicked on the wrong link, so I kept searching and eventually I sadly realized I’d just viewed the winning video.

Sorry I don't agree with her answer as a "winner". It's purely a revenge trip for a few people--namely, those who "got screwed" by Henry Kravis. I liked my idea better--invite the entire population of the city and have them watch your film in Henry Kravis' house.

"Two wrongs don't make a right?" How very cliché. Lets apply that same ethical standard to other injustices shall we?

A pedophile just raped your child, don’t send him to prison because he might be raped. After all two wrongs don’t make a right.

A billionaire defrauded millions of stockholders and employees profit-sharing and increased his own personal wealth and leaving the company bankrupt. Don’t seize his assets and make him pay fines, because two wrongs don’t make a right.

It makes perfect sense?

No! The ethical thing to do is recognize when piracy is piracy regardless of whether or not it’s considered “legal” at the time. We the people determine what is right and wrong, and if we the people start staying (out-loud), there WILL be consequences for that behavior, the CEO Pirates continue at their own peril.

Justice can be civil, or it can be a rabid mob with torches and pitchforks. The choice is up to us, not them, what level of justice will ensue.

I don't advocate just taking property from someone who has more. I agree with Rebecca. Two wrongs and all that. That's what communism is and does: Each takes according to his need and gives according to his ability.

I feel bad for the guy who lost his pension.

But honestly, tell me: which one of you would NOT want to be able to grow their own personal wealth far beyond their needs as Henry Kravis has done? Maybe we'd be "kinder and gentler" about it, to quote a former Bush president, but isn't that what capitalism, the model we ascribe to is all about?

I vote as the winner of the war on greed, Paul Allen, who started Microsoft with Bill Gates and now owns the largest privately owned yacht in the world, complete with 2 helicopters and 5 or 6 smaller boats on it.

Whoa,

The message of 'inviting people over and walking away with whatever you could carry' from a Kravis Home is an unethical one.

I'm not impressed at all with your choice.

Two 'wrongs' don't make things 'right.'

Positive, productive change will dig us out from under the evils of Empire~let's champion the message(s) that will steward this change.

Let's think intelligently.....and act accordingly.

--
Rebecca Tobias
Program Director
Raoul Wallenberg Institute of Ethics
Malibu, California
310-916-8888
www.RaoulWallenbergInstitute.org

As a tree is known by it's fruit, a person by one's deeds. A good deed is never lost: He who sows courtesy reaps friendship; and he who plants kindness gathers love.

Basil of Caesarea

Dear Jgilliam,

The loss of a pension is a terrible thing. Henry Kravis, however, is not responsible for the loss. In order for your husband to lose his pension after Mr. Kravis purchased the company, it would have had to have been unvested pension plan under ERISA. As the ERISA was established years the purchase, Henry Kravis cannot be at fault. He had no connection with your husband's company when the ERISA plan was set up. The person who screwed your husband was not Henry Kravis, but the former owner who set up a non-vested pension plan.

On the other hand, you could blame Sandra day O'Connor, former US Supreme Court Justice, who wrote Pilot v Dedeaux in 1987 which allowed ERISA plans to cheat employees leaving them with no legal recourse. Your husband was cheated long before he hard of Henry Kravis. Why don’t you compare the pension plans for the corporate big wigs who sold out to Henry Kravis? I bet 10 to 1, their pension plans were vested.

As long as demagogues like Greenwald misdirect everyone’s attention into hating one man, they know that you won’t take any action to fix the law which allowed your husband’s former employer to cheat him. I’ll also bet Greenwald’s pension plan is vested.

hey dominick-
the site crashed for a few minutes, those links should work fine now.

Hey Robert, I'm on your email list and the only video link that worked was the first one narrated by
Carolyn Bears.
The rest of the links are No Shows!
Dominick
dominick@sonic.net

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> Dear friends,
>
> Two weeks ago, I sent you our latest Brave New Films video, "War on Greed
> Starring Henry Kravis' Homes," and asked for your ideas on what you'd do
> with one of Kravis' mansions for a day during the holidays. Carolyn
> Bears' story stood out.
>
> Watch it: bravenewfilms.org
>
> The War on Greed has touched a nerve, with over 200,000 views and over a
> hundred blogs writing about the issue of economic disparity. We will be
> continuing to work to call attention to the War on Greed.
>
> And happy holidays!
>
> Robert Greenwald
> and everyone at Brave New Films
>
> P.S. Here are a few holiday videos we highlighted on BraveNewFilms.org
> this morning that you might enjoy with your egg nog:
>
> Dear Santa, Bring Daddy Home
> bravenewfilms.org
>
> Bush wishes the richest one percent a very merry Christmas
> bravenewfilms.org
>
> And if you can't make it an entire day without a little hating from Bill
> O'Reilly to elevate your blood pressure:
> bravenewfilms.org
>